Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

only problem i seem to run into is the ai stinks at going around the sweet new asteroids. good job on the 1.1 guys.

One dumb question when do i get to kill people with romulans  :) :guns:  :2guns:  :assimilate:  

the path finding has been enhanced for beta2, ships will find their way arround ateroid fields much more intelligent :)

you will be able to play the romulans in beta2... i can not state a release date.. but as you can see in the screenshot section the romulans make greate progress :)

May I ask a question about the Romulans? Why does the one ship have such a small neck? It looks out of place. Also, are their any other "double-hulled" ships in the game besides the D'Deridex? I'm asking because it annoys me to no end that only one Romulan ship besides the D'Deridex (Shrike) has the double-hull configuration, a feature that IMO, should be a commom characteristic on Romulan vessels...

Then again, that's my thoughts. ;)

 

some of the romulan vessels we include are orientated on the valdore type warbird which has a less distinct double wing. actually it's wing has two layers which hold the impulse drive (or whatever - the big white glows coming out from the back)
also, could you specify in which screenshot the romulan ship 'with the short neck' is shown? :)
Here attached, a screencap from nemensis shows the valdore type warbird 'double wing' design

DOCa Cola

cool

another thing (i will set up forum rules soon)
pls avoid one-word-posts. i appreciate your acceptance but it is also good to know for what exactly :)
Thx

DOCa Cola

o ok i see u don't like my lol's my lmao's my rofl's and my one post words is it coz u jealous of my good looks???

sorry, i was to specific, see it as a demand not as a ban-warning :D i like to see that you make many posts, but i also like to read a sentence about what you think (in this example) is cool or whatever. that makes it a discussion forum not an opinion vote. Hope you understand what is my point. i don't wanted to offend you with my request.

DOCa Cola

no don't worry i was only jokeing but if i say you did offend me can i have beta 2 earley???

of course :D but now it's too late ;)

oh well it was worth a try  

*cough* inexperiancedforumgoer *cough*

J/k Euf :P

I thought most romulan war birds used the double hull design; incorporated into there designs, ie there enormouse size versus a galaxie class ship. in TNG the warbirds where on avereage almost 2 times the D's height. just a thought.  

That's what I thought too, but I guess the Fleet Ops Team doesn't think so...;)

BTW, the "short necked" ship was the Romulan destroyer. The neck and head are little detailed IMO, and the neck is about a milimeter thick. Perhaps adding detail to the head and adding a second neck in a configuration like the old Griffin-Class would work? Not using the long necks but having the short necks attached at that angle?

(http://www.borgcore.de/outerspace/shit/romulan_rhienn.png)
Romulan Rhienn Class Destroyer


This is the ship we are talking about
well, i think the neck is ok.. you can see at the norexan (also known as valdore) warbird, that the romulans like these thinn elements.. the warp drives of the norexan seem to fly away every second :D

most large vessels have the double hull design. We think that small romulan vessels don't have them (revering to the scour, the only small romulan vessel known) and only giant warbirds have them, to demonstrate the glory of the empire in size..
by the way, the norexan, d'deridex, tavara warbirds and the romulan serkas class have double hull designes
only the rhienn, generix, leavhal and talon class vessels don't have.. so it is 50:50 :)

i have a question about the cloaking devices,
will others races have it too ? klingons and romulans already have them....

oh and btw: didn't the defiant class had one in the ds9 episodes ? :cloak:  

No, the defiant class will not get a cloaking device, the only defiant class that had a cloaking device was the U.S.S Defiant from commander Sisko which got a cloaking device from the romulans for exploring the gamma quadrant. and don't expect the romulans to give out cloaking devices for free :lol:

DOCa Cola

*dØmn feds, to stupid not to give it back*

hmm, ask quark if he has one for the defiant  :lol:  :P

anyways, this is your mod, your the boss  :D  

the federation signed a treaty with the romulans, which does forbid the federation to research or use cloaking devices. in exchange the romulans are not allowed to use cloaking devices in the alpha quadrant..

Hmm, the Federation must be more nieve than we all think. How can you penalize a ship for something that makes it invisible... :lol:  

hehe :)
but this treaty appeared in a few episodes, doesn't it?

and also about the difant it's custum made for sisko it's more powerful than the average difant

yes. i could think of it as a hero ships..
ohh, but there are no hero ships in Fleet Operations  :lol:  

The treaty is called the "Treaty of Algeron" and was established during the peace talks which ended the Romulan-Federation war. It established the Neutral Zone and the restriction that the Federation is forbidden to research cloaking technology.

But I think Nemesis showed that Federation and Romulans could be allies in the future. It would be logical, if at some point of time the Romulans would aggree to cut this part of the text from the treaty. I mean, if the Romulans could have allies to fight a bigger enemy (Borg, Dominion and what ever may come), why taking away the possible advantage of cloaking devices from them... and thus losing the war?

But as this has still to come, the only possibility of cloaked Federation Vessels would be to incorporate a true "U.S.S. Defiant" into the game. But unfortunately, that's not possible. Except, you could make a cloakable Defiant that would cost all the credits und is more powerful than the average one! ;)

i don't think the romulans will be an real ally to the federation in future..
the romulans are a very prideful culture. They see every other race as inferior.. i think they only accept the federation as a POSSIBLE party which has equal superiority as them.
They also hate aliens in any case. after the Orion pirates slaughtered and slaved them they fought for their freedom. even ferengi vessels are not allowed to enter romulan space and will be destroyed if they do so..
i think the dominion war and the shonzon affair have shortly cut the romulan isolation, but they will maintain their wall arround them and research and expand in the delta quadrant. This part of the treaty grants them superiority out of the alpha quadrant, where they are allowed to use cloaking devices which the federation isn't even allowed to have..
If there is no superior thread (like the dominion.. the borg rendered themselves pretty harmless to the romulans in history) the romulans will continue to expand and advance there military forces...

till they met the ciadan, but this is Fleet Operations story. not Official Star Trek story :D

Alright the ciadan, who are they and were did they come from. ARe they better than the Romulans. :cloak:  

there's an whole topic in the fourm about them

Concerning the Romulans, one should never forget the underground movement, which could be bigger than we know. I mean, if Spock sees the chance that Romulus and Vulcan could reestablish a relationship, this makes quite clear that Romulans are not always Romulans, if you know what I mean.

The Romulan attitude is certainly not only a "genetically programmed" one. Romulans are sometimes more human than I expected, there are several Episodes which show that and Nemesis is just a natural result of it.

But as there will be no TV show in the near future which could tell the story and as it is hard to develop that plot through possible new movies (as they probably won't be TNG movies), we perhaps will never know...  

unfortuneley i have to agrre with the move bit and i also agree with the part about the romulans

ahh i see master. so when do i take my jedi trials :)

there was 2 other ships that used cloacking tech in the federation. the pheonix ( the ship in the middle of a planetoid used phased technology witch is a varient of cloack), the future enterprise d( 3 nacells large cannon under saucer). the pheonix was a illeagal experiment, where as the people of star treck made the final episode of tng with the futuristic d kicking major butt.in that episode romulans are freinds klingons aredamn near at war with federation.  so if you used this episode in the distant future federation uses cloacking tech, or if you use other episode they have it allready but cant use it or start a war with romulas.  :)

hey, actually it was the pegasus a high tech Oberth Class full of galaxy class and classified tech :)
in that near future episode at the end of tng, that was just a possible future, but picard changed it for example by removing that anomaly...

Umm, you all seem to forget one thing...The Klingons conquered the Romulans. Why else would the Klingons care if Romulus was afflicted by the Plague?

but one thing is not sure, that the dominion war ever has happened in this alternate future where the klingons suffered heavy losses and i don't think the romulans send more than 30% of their fleet to fight against the dominion...

DOCa Cola

yep, i don't think the klingons would have the possibilities to conquer the romulan empire after the dominion war. You can see only a few Warbirds in the fleets which freed cardassia. with the romulans always being a military thread to the federation they must have there main fleets back home... after the dominion war the romulan empire should be the most powerful force in the alpha quadrant

Umm, I don't think the AGT universe had a Dominion War. Remember, this was before that part of DS9. The writers decided to stay away from DS9 because they wanted to finish by themselves.

yep, just what i thought :)

You sure that was the pegasus???  and the future D is still a possability. by closeing the anomaly, he didnt change the future that much, as i remember it was a possable future yes but closeing the anomaly wouldnt change the fact that its not still there possable future, :).   ya the klingons lost alot of ships in the cardassion incident but so did the romulans with there secret fleet sent to the founders homeworld.  romulas and klingons will never be friendly to  eachother thats pretty much set in stone. but i still dont see where or why romulas is believed to end up with the largest fleets. ya they got the largest ships, but there power source is extremly difficult to manufacture, and cannot ever be shut of once activated, i belive they have around 100 - 200 more ships than the federation max, where as klingons being true warriors would be 100 - 300 above the romulans. mainly because of the old bird of preys they still use but they are effective in mass(one thing armada never took into acount)  as always my 2 cents  :)