Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

What do ya think about a Maquee(sp) Avatar?

hmm funny you should say that...

have about a Rebel race that uses old ships and has also has mercenraies to buy that help them?

I think Avatars should have a stronger influence on gameplay as they already have.
I would appreciate several new avatars, say for each race one more.

Dominion: A Cardassian one
Borg: Locutus as third avatar (pick out: gives Borg the ability to transact better with other races )
Klingon: I thougt about Worf ( pick out: doubled stats for defiants)
Romulan: An avatar that stays for a more open minded empire
Federation: An avatar that is more concentrated on science ( pick out: new scienceship)

Klingon: I thougt about Worf ( pick out: doubled stats for defiants)

emm...klingons don't have defiants?!?

Maquee where wiped out after the domanon arived in the alfa quodrent. I do know doca said at one post you will be abule to use hierd killers by capcchering crimal star bases that will be a map idom.

a spock avatar for the federation!  

id rather have an admiral Ross avitar for the fedies
maybe give a mix of abilities between the other 2 avitars?

i love ur signiture picture mate!
a mixture of 2 avatars abilities would be rather dull i'd think, something totally new and original would be better IMO

I think a section 31 avatar would be pretty cool

wasn't ross part of section 31?

I like the idea of a cardassian-avatar for the Dominion.
If its only an avatar you would only need 3 or 4 cardassian ships. The breen have only 2.

Galor, Keldon, Hideki....I am not that used to them.
The cardassian missile would be nice to see, but isnt necessary.

well, the dominion already have one very long range arty, let's leave it at that, but i must say i'm fond of the idea of using missiles in the game.

what about a SG-1 avatar? the Prometheus in Stargate has missles! ^_^

now that's just stupid! bad, bad boy!!!

Oh yeah...sry!
There went something wrong in my brain 0o
Which Klingon avatar would you like to add?
 

The cardassian was just an idea ^^
If you really want to implement it you could change the artillery into a missile-buidling or a special ship ?

By the way, I never use the artillery, its makes only sense in some multiplayer situations. And I am waiting for the Borg and the Dom-Dreadnaught.
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About the romulans: Maybe one for better science and special abillities ?

well, worf is still a viable option, it could be called, federation diplomat or alliance or something and have a few modded federation ships or have a trading bonus with the feds.

what would be good is the Worf avatar having a credit busting Defiant ship! Worf had 1 of his own in 1 of the films ^_^

i still think a stargate SG-1 avatar would be good for the game :lol:

 :blink:  

Nah, an SGC avvy just wouldn't be in the spirit of Trek. ;)  ((Good fun stuff ;) , but not when you clash it with hordes of screaming klingons. :lol:  :omg: ))

no example in mind for that one? ;)

erm the "girl" (female romulan Commander) from nemesis was very open-minded IMHO oh and there is always Spock, i think he's still on Romolus isn't he?
 

i meant gameplay ;)

i was thinking of the female romulan from nemesis too!  

Admiral whats-her-name. Oh darn it!! I just read a Titan book, AND articles of the federation and BOTH mentioned her :blink: . DONATRA!! thats it!! :D  or was it Dontara? :wacko:  something like that. ;)  

It was Donatra, Commander of the Valdore! :D  she would be good as an avatar. Not sure what would be added exept for the mogai class warbirds.

Mogai class warbirds, and maybee Phase cloak for said warbirds.  Also some kind of trade bonus due to her reformed beliefs, and some other clas of ship that we could invent ^_^  

hmm yeah give her a bonus on the acquiring supplies(hmm simple more or so or cheaper) BUT i think you should remove the cloaking devices on some of her ships;

Why do we need to hide from our friends?  

I think to get an overview over all avatars we should say what are all the others specialized on ?

I dont know much about Fed and Klingons so just copy/change the list and complete it. ^^ I just wrote something down, If you know it better, do as you please. I usually play dominion so it the only race I really can say something about.



 6. General Helev Fleet Admiral Mayson.
 2. Fleet Admiral Risner.
 3. TaQ'roja.
 4. General Martok.
 5.
 7. Alliance: Breen
 8. Dominion: pure tech.  


 7. Alliance: Breen
 8. Dominion: pure tech.  



FED:
Fleet Admiral Mayson:
Fleet Admiral Risner:

Klingons:
TaQ'roja: bird of prey and nasty little cruisers
Martok: The big ships

Dominion:
Breen: They dont build that fast but they have bonus in science and torpedos.
Vorta: Very fast ship construction.
Cardassians: Maybe a phaser bonus, longer weapon range or a bonus in supply collecting ? And maybe a hideki scout with cloaking abillity ? I would like to see it. ^^

Romulans:
General Mijural Phaser weapons
General Helev  Puls weapons (shrike)
Donatra: Open minded movie character: New class of warbird (replacing the D-deredex, bonus for trading ? Or a better pre-warning system (sensors) New weapons on the big ships ? Other techs ?

By the way: She has improved technologie. Is it possible to cloak a building ? For example a sensor station ? She doesnt really have to be open minded to other races, she just knows what they are doing.  ***Clones ans spys to infiltrate like they did in the last movie***

Another idea: You could give one new avatar, the abillity to upgrade their buildings, so that the big stations have some little weapons. Could be interesting.

the feds are a little though; hmm
ah: what about a science heavy one (diplomacy is our main weapon)
and a military one (peace through power; erm sorry cane, that i stole that one)


the science one has a lot of support ships witch generally boost your fleet, while the military one features some new more combat orientated battleships and more special weapons focused on dealing damage;

and what about the borg? huh?

Borg would be one assimilation
Two Destruction
three, A rebel light, the unimatrix zero one borg
 

I think the Borg-"specifications", Fullphaser mentioned are good.

1. Assimilation (thats for sure)
2. maybe an attacker with stronger weapons
3. Light one with more trans warp ships (not only the gate an the interceptor - OR the others only have the gate)

I don't think the Mogai class warbird should have a phase cloak. It would tip the ballance, think of a heavily armed warship phasing through the asteroid belt that protects you and blows most everything up. A standard cloak would be just fine.

What do you guys think of the luna class as a support ship?

@James Zolar:
What exactly is the lunar class ? Is it a romulan class or a FED ship ?

About the Mogai /Valdor (you mean that ship from the movie dont you ?)
Phase cloak would be an option, but I dont really like it.
I would prefer something else.

Well, theres always enhanced weapons :D  

Rapid fire :)

Maybe a copy of the scimitar cloaking system ? So that it can be cloaked like all others but it can fire. But that would be too powerfull so every weapon shot takes some of the cloaking energy. And if you shoot too much it uncloaks.

Or the shields are still active while cloaked ? Could be very usefull when attacking.

All versions for an advanced cloaking technology. Which would you prefer ? Or use them all so that Donatra is specialised on cloaking systems and the Valdor ist the top. Maybe the Valdor can switch between different cloaking types ?

maybe a weapon which can fire through the cloak for the upper echelon star ships  in the Romulan empire, but in exchange it drains huge amounts of energy. It would make the Romulan's more of a presence on the battlefield, and might justify tuning back that over sized Tavera.

No! I like the Tavara! *tear*
It's so useful to make a capital fleet with three of them and a bunch of Norexans and Cehlears for the main attack!

The luna class is the class of the Titan. It's a new exploration ship fitted with phasers and quantum torpedoes. It also has a very refined but energy intensive sensor net. But anyway with it being an non-warship I think it should be an support ship.

Thanks For Reading

Mogai??  

lol, I doubt you're talking about the construction ship, so I'll assume you mean the NOREXAN.  I also comletely disagree about the phase cloak.  I shudder at the thought of all the online abuses that ability would create...

Also, I think the Luna would be neat- IF and only if they add a third Federation avatar, which may not evn be possable. (I seem to remember hearing somewhere that 3 avatars is impossible- correct me if I'm wrong)

p.s. Something tells me you've been reading the Titan novels recently  ;)  

Some words from our beloved Fleet ops creators ?
IS IT POSSIBLE OR DID WE WRITE THE LAST 3 SIDES FOR NOTHING ?
 

If you ment adding avatars, yep thats possible - There is already a small cardassian avatar mod made by Overlord/Zeich. Still some features used in Fleet Operations can not be implemented using simple odf editing, but - at least for the v3PR - you should be able to achieve good results :)

Yea the novels are great! Just finished reading "Red King".

So the Norexin-class is supposed to be the "mogai" warbird?

I thought so ^^
Isnt the Valdore a Mogai class warbird ?
Or am I mixing something up and its a Norexian ????
***ConFUsEeeEEe****

The Valdore was a Norexan-Type Warbird. So its Class should be Warbird and its subtype Norexan - we still titled it Norexan Class in Fleet Operations

Oh OxO So it IS already in the game ?

But that should be no problem, maybe change it all a little, so that only Donatra has the Norexan type instead of the Dderedex. And everyone else has just the Dderedex and the tavara.That would give the "normal" warbird more presence on the battlefield.
You have to choose what to do ^^

that wouldn't be possible, other players tech trees can not be affected by the actions or units of another single player.  

It isnt supposed to "affect" the others, they just cant build it....- never.
The valdore is the new ship she gets like the breen ships for the Dominion.
Hope you understand. And if its possible the "Valdor" should replace the dderedex for donatra-avatar

I think you miss the point, your build abilities are based on your tech tree, the avatars are a branch in the tech tree, (In league with thousands of other factors) By selecting one, you wouldn't be able to simply disable the valdore for the other player ;) + The rommies are running both, the Valdore has the attack  and the Dedreix runs defense, with a remarkably low number of ships why would we want to detract any more?  

Yep, at the moment its planned to keep booth the D'deridex and the Norexan Type Warbird available for all Romulan avatars. Additional Warbirds should appear in the future :)

I still think that you misunderstood me, but that doesnt matter any more.
I am just a brainy with some ideas, which you can accept or decline.
Do as you please, it will become a great game.

I do too  :lol: Its the only ship capable of effectively capturing enemy ships without pummeling them down to a point that as soon as you beam someone on to them, their original owners blast them out of existence!

Personally, I like the implementation of the Avatars so far... but maybe they could be altered just a bit, with the existing avies tilting more towards offense and defense, and adding a third that's either right down the middle, or gives large research bonuses in case you want to take the all special-weapons path?

I'd love to see a reman sympathizer avy for the romulans ;) It would grant them some combat bonuses, A technology named "Reman shock troops" which would increase boarding party effectivity, and of course the scimitar base which would cost 6000 Di 5500 tri and build the reman scimitar; which would take ALL of your credits (be very expensive in di and tri) and have a thalaron weapon that would instantly kill all life in a huge area. ((All those pretty ships for me?)) Obviously this would be a very powerful ship but its balanced by the fact that you can have only one. and the thalaron weapon would take ages to deploy ;)  

there are no romulans sympathizing with remans! remans are slaves, tools.. nothing to think about! :D

It's a real shame.  However, I don't see why Reman rebels can't be placable in the editor... *stares at Optec*  Hint, hint... hint.... *cough* hint..........

Well then they need an avvy with a romulan spin off of the scimitar ;)  Or the Remans could become a race in a far future version....

Yes, a faaaaar future version...