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General => Star Trek => Topic started by: Saijen on September 19, 2006, 02:53:53 AM



Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Saijen on September 19, 2006, 02:53:53 AM
Here you go folks.  Regardless of whether we go and slam this down on Rick Berman's desk, and although I have a feeling of the outcome of this poll, let's see what the results show.

Vote away, and let's hear opinions.

I for one am and always have been a fan of the Borg.  And I think that making a Borg series, describing their whereabouts, and origin (not just from the Delta Quadrant, I'm speaking more homeworld terms), would shed some light on this deadly enemy.  Some say there wouldn't be much dialogue in a Borg series, but I beg to differ.  Seeing as how it would be from THEIR perspective, constantly hearing the "Unified Mind" in the backround while things are happening would make things interesting.  Also they do talk to themselves more directly, not just with those whispers in the backround.  It would definately be different, which would attract alot of viewers.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 19, 2006, 04:04:22 AM
Haha, guess what I voted for :P


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Skitzeh on September 19, 2006, 09:58:02 AM
if they were gunna do it (which wud be direction suicide btw...) then id wanna c dom and post-nem feds.

=)


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: hypercube on September 19, 2006, 12:43:42 PM
well, keep it on it's track, post nem federation, just keep going on, from where they left off :P


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 19, 2006, 02:33:23 PM
Well I did not vote becuss non of the options are what I was looking for. I would like to see a new series that had a mager jump in to the fucher like TOS-TNG. Maby it whould be could to go in to time traval haveing the crow in the timparal cold war from the fucher perspective.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 19, 2006, 06:26:10 PM
Hell no if you did that Trek would die  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on September 19, 2006, 08:03:53 PM
no more time travel please! there was lots of it in enterprise and it'll just ruin the entire series even more, i hope berman and co dont go that way again! i'd like to see them stickin with tradition and going with a new enterprise or another federation flagship. however i like the borg idea in the 1st post too :)


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: EccentricDonald on September 19, 2006, 09:34:45 PM
It has to be post-Nemesis Federation because there are some loose ends that need to be tied up plus the whole Star Trek franchise was built on the experiences of notable Starfleet officers like Picard and Kirk.  I'd have to agree that doing anything in the past like Enterprise would be sacrilige to the whole franchise.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 20, 2006, 12:01:23 AM
Well if you think of in contents of ent ya the idea of time traval sucks. Thare have ben some good time tral episodes that where non ent and evin a few good ent time traval epis.

star trek voge home was good. Just add a small bit of comity and thare you go.

That voger episode whare the voger encownterd the time ship that was chaging the fucher by oltering the past was good.

I just would hate to see pepale rite off time traval becuss of ent.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on September 20, 2006, 12:04:49 AM
i agree there was some good time travel episodes, even the kirk film where they went back in time to rescue some whales and bring them bck to kirk's time was great but enterprise kinda over did it and some sucked but what i don't want is another prequel like enterprise and ******* up the timeline again with more time travel. stick to the future i say.

does anyone know what the chances of another series are?  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 12:11:13 AM
Id say it depends on how well the movie does

but Ewm yes there were good episodes when they were set in the future we dont want a show going through time travel constantly it would destroy ST continuity


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 20, 2006, 12:14:31 AM
Well than dont make it consetent. But I think it whould be cool if one or more fed ships could traval thow time like in 1st contact.

We have all ready seen thare is a timpral over site comity working in star fleet.

Maby if a ship need to traval thowe time thay whould need to have otherisation.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 12:16:57 AM
no because then that would make the federation a god race and again it would kill ST


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 20, 2006, 12:50:16 AM
Well maby meny of its compation have it two.

You could make a sotry line saying time traval was made by a 3ed party and sold it to the hiest biders.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 02:29:15 AM
What the hell is wrong with you

IF you add Time travel to ST it ruins it its that simple not every writer for the show is the same so u get errors and it hurts overall trek  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on September 20, 2006, 03:13:19 AM
I would love to see a post Rom war. we see in TOS a littel bit of the angwish about it, i think it would make for some realy chilling and thriling TV not to mention the emotional aspects. you know there was jsut a war thousands dead, a UFP startsing, the klingons sided with the Romulans but the feds dont know it all and were getting it bad some times, Mars trys to back out, small raiding ships evrey ware, and in the midst of it all one ship has to try to hold things togeather on the front, in unexplored space, with the first truly mixed crew, trying to prove to the universe and them selfs that they can do it they can be the United Federation Of pLanets. that sounds like good TV.    


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 03:19:38 AM
yeah its a great idea but... they shoulda made it as season 5 of Ent :(


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on September 20, 2006, 03:22:17 AM
that could have worked but though actors....with exseption to i think trip and..well no one else realy ahd lines, they jsut stunk.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
well thats not true at all...

Malcom was a great member of the cast and scott bakula wasnt a bad ST captain at all Tpol was interesting to see and Trip as u said was great

Phlox was also a great charecter


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on September 20, 2006, 03:34:06 AM
Scott was awfull, like made me cringe.
I had forgot about Phlox. lol how bad is that i named one of my ships after him. yeah he was done well.
Plus it woudnt fill out the mixed crew.
i was thinking : Andorian, Tellerite, Vulcan, Human, Marsman(My version),Xindie.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 03:38:54 AM
well no xindi cause they dont join the feds and meant to fight them in the 26th or something century around the time of the Ent J

as for Scott he wasnt awful he had really good moments especially in Season 4

and as for an andorian i would love that we already have a vulcan  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 20, 2006, 03:53:51 AM
ummmm.... Whats with the insolts gain.

St cant be heart much more than it is now. You will get erors if you dont two. If you gona have erors thay mite as well be cool ones in my opion.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 04:02:56 AM
but why have errors at all


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Saijen on September 20, 2006, 05:14:10 AM
Guys come on.  Let's get back on track here.  Opinions are welcome, but lets stop insulting each other and get back on topic.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 05:57:07 AM
wait a second, where are we insulting each other i make one comment and people are trying to turn this into another flame war

Im sorry but i hate when this **** happens all the time its the kinda stuff that really ****** me off about people on this forum at times......

and for the record i still think that Time travel and ST should not mix as the concept for a whole show its a stupid idea

and as for teh rommie war it wont happen as the idea of pre Tos failed miserabley with ST ENT thanks to the low ratings dont ever expect it

Lets just carry on boldly going where no one has gone before instead of just going through stuff in traditional hollywood fashion and kill the franchise

Enough said


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Intimid8er on September 21, 2006, 12:45:02 AM
i think it would be cool to see the dominion's conquest of the gamma quadrant. ;)  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: 8_of_11 on September 21, 2006, 03:09:27 AM
How about post-Nem Romulans with stuff about the Borg's origins, a funny Ferengi character, time travel done properly to the Dominion War Era, and another war with the Cardassians and the Klingons?
Yeah, it's stupid, but they're probably going to make it just like that, don't deny it!
At least they'll have an episode with that general stuff in it. Maybe no Cardassians or Klingons, but still...


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on September 21, 2006, 03:46:08 AM
I dont feel insalted at all.
I think the idea of having a war is not good, its been done, post war is difrent. the stories of trek are not about Action or plot but of people and life, how humanity can change for the better and worse, lest thats what i ahe always gotten, i mean come on, when i think of best TNG episodes, Famliy is right at the top.  


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 21, 2006, 04:19:13 AM
Well Yeah TNG was all about family and i loved the show for that it taught us morale values

and was something you could learn from


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 21, 2006, 06:05:32 AM
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wait a second, where are we insulting each other i make one comment and people are trying to turn this into another flame war

Im sorry but i hate when this **** happens all the time its the kinda stuff that really ****** me off about people on this forum at times......

and for the record i still think that Time travel and ST should not mix as the concept for a whole show its a stupid idea

and as for teh rommie war it wont happen as the idea of pre Tos failed miserabley with ST ENT thanks to the low ratings dont ever expect it

Lets just carry on boldly going where no one has gone before instead of just going through stuff in traditional hollywood fashion and kill the franchise

Enough said
Whoo! come down no one wonts a fite. lets just be sival problom solved.


Well Going back to time traval..

I think it could be fun if thay do it smartly thare will be lital to no erorrs. Like for exsmapal: the ship trvals back in time totos time and meats with a spy from the fucher trying to chage the past. If the ship the spy is on is unnown thares no problom. Thare are meny people and ships in starfleet and uther races that are unone to the star trek show.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 21, 2006, 04:38:13 PM
The minute you make time travel the whole point of the show, Startrek will die

 


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: ewm90 on September 21, 2006, 07:31:51 PM
I dont agree.

I dont think time traval will kill it. The bigest threat to ST is bad script riters. I think it you had some one as smart as the FO team lol righting it would do well in most areas.

I bleve in the inporins of good people more than what you right about.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on September 21, 2006, 10:11:41 PM
well i read on wikipedia that the guy that is supposed to be directing/producing the next ST film values fan input and he's actually listened to the fans opinion of a prequel, academy film and series so if the writers and directers of any new series listens to the fans they shouldn't go wrong. hopefully.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Rhaz on September 22, 2006, 01:40:02 AM
Time Travel is dangerous.

Survive a few seasons and maybe do one episode, otherwise you've got a mess on your hands.

I'd definatly love a post Nemesis.

-Cardassians Rebuild.

-The Borg, of course.

-Tough trade alliance with the Dominion.

-Romulans attack Federation and Klingon ships (That was actually in my oppinion an amazing storyline in SFC 3).

I think a good pilot would be the pirates attacking  the ship on a maiden voyage, and stealing some menial crew members; and the pursuit to get them back.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: 8_of_11 on September 22, 2006, 03:22:28 AM
Why not main crew members?

Oh, and we'd need a place where a Federation (?) ship could be pirated from post-Nemesis.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 22, 2006, 05:38:25 AM
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Time Travel is dangerous.

Survive a few seasons and maybe do one episode, otherwise you've got a mess on your hands.

I'd definatly love a post Nemesis.

-Cardassians Rebuild.

-The Borg, of course.

-Tough trade alliance with the Dominion.

-Romulans attack Federation and Klingon ships (That was actually in my oppinion an amazing storyline in SFC 3).

I think a good pilot would be the pirates attacking the ship on a maiden voyage, and stealing some menial crew members; and the pursuit to get them back.

If they make a new series its most probably going to be a post-nemesis federation. Now I like most of your ideas, what I dont know is how would the Borg come into all of this and that Rommie attack would be suicide on their part seeing how many losses they withstood during the Dominion war.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Rhaz on September 22, 2006, 06:47:58 AM
Take 2 main crew members, and a couple menial ones, so we can have some red...erm gold shirts to execute. Introduce the 2 main crew members as they try to deal their way off of the ship, while the rest of the ship goes off in pursuit.

I would recommend the ship to be of Galaxy, Sovereign or Excelsior Refit.

Because those ships have both the combat and auxillary facilities, neccesary to spawn episodes, and I didn't include the Akira, because then they could simply go omg enemy, 15 torp tubes, we win, plus the Akira lacks the facilities of sensors and the sense to allow a family to survive. Therefore, I'd like to select an Excelsior Refit, a ship of the line, not the flag ship of the federation but a very prominent vessel none the less.

They could go through all sorts of adventures, imagine a coup in the Cardassian empire following the post war tensions,  A resurgant borg, attacking the outskirts of the system, Rogue Tal Shiar commanders, DMZ patrol from the dominion war, alot of interesting events can occur.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 22, 2006, 03:24:58 PM
Well i like it but excellsior refit wont work non cannon

but for a Sovie, Steam runner or some other ship maybe a new design for a large ship

But i like the idea rhaz


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Cpt Ryan on September 22, 2006, 04:40:10 PM
I think he meant the Lakota refit (DS9 episode)


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 22, 2006, 04:44:43 PM
I doubt it and i wouldnt use that ship as a new series as it would look too outdated

Perhaps a series on a Sovie would work

heck even teh prometheus would work


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on September 22, 2006, 04:45:34 PM
i think they sud stick with enterprise, new captain and crew for the post nemesis era, if they can persuade picard and riker and anybody else to come bck then fine! but i doubt as they're gettin on a bit now


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Saijen on September 23, 2006, 03:04:03 AM
I tend to agree there.  It was Picard himself who said in First Contact that there are plenty of letters left in the alphabet.  We're at E right now, but why not go on to F?  Heck, if what Future Tense is doing and they use their storyline partially, in saying that the Enterprise-E is MIA, that gives them reason to build F.

And let's not forget in the dreaded time traveling episode of ST: ENT, when Daniels brings Archers onto a futuristic Enterprise during the Xindi conflict.  What was that ship?  Enterprise-J?  Even if we all don't like Time Travel, that still makes you curious and want to explore the Enterprise and what it will look like and be capable of in its future designs.  Not to mention what crew it will have.
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Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: hypercube on September 23, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
well, i wouldn't write off the E-E just yet, it's a new ship, no episodes were made about it and it's the most advanced starship in the federation, why not make a story about it, TNG was so succesfull and i bet people would watch this! But they have to find an extraordinary succesor to mr Jean Luc


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on September 23, 2006, 08:41:45 PM
well i would love a show on the ENT E its one of my fav Fed ships

ofcourse id love a show on the proper steamrunners as they look cool


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Casper on September 30, 2006, 02:38:24 PM
i'd like to see the first Cardassian-Federation War, with new ship and crew. but sinse that's not there i put Fed future.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: RedShirt on October 03, 2006, 01:05:51 AM
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i'd like to see the first Cardassian-Federation War, with new ship and crew. but sinse that's not there i put Fed future.
I doubt we will.

Although it was relatively bloody and created hard feelings on both sides, it was fairly insigificant in the grand scheme of things.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on October 03, 2006, 03:59:28 PM
i'd like new galaxies explored via wormholes and transwoip condooits!


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: RedShirt on October 03, 2006, 04:02:54 PM
That would be neat.  Mabye someone could mod it into Legacy.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Frodo on October 07, 2006, 02:28:29 AM
fcuk the game i want it on the silver screen! :lol:


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: RedShirt on October 09, 2006, 06:37:32 PM
Wow, yet another way to make Trek XI suck.  Now we just need something that would make it NOT suck.


Title: New ST Series Poll
Post by: Acidpunk on October 10, 2006, 12:31:55 AM
Trek 11 wont suck

It will be good have faith