Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

General => Small Talk => Topic started by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 01:39:24 PM



Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 01:39:24 PM
Home to the Star Trek Armada MOD that will place gamers in a possible future within the Star Trek Universe. Taking place almost 30 years after the Star Trek Nemesis motion picture, players will be pitted against other races in a battle of life and death against a foe so deadly they'll put both the combined threats of the Borg and Dominion to shame.




http://futuretense.armadafleetcommand.com/ (http://futuretense.armadafleetcommand.com/)



This has to be the most exciting mod to be released for A1 last i heard from the source is that it will be released in christmas time

For anyone who still plays A1 its a must on anyones wishlist

 


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: SHO260 on September 18, 2006, 01:47:28 PM
The story line for this mod seams to be basest on virtual 8th and 9th season of voyager.


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Cpt Ryan on September 18, 2006, 01:54:48 PM
ohhh :cry:  just when my A1 CD turns up brocken *crys into his lap* looks very cool... and ambitious, hope it turns out well :)  


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 02:01:49 PM
Well i speak to Phantom who develops the mod and if you check the specials your going to cry with how good it is

theres stuff in that game thats going to blow you away

ps. the Sernaix are from virtual voyager


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 18, 2006, 02:04:33 PM
I certainly will try that :) I loved to play A1, thought I totally stopped when I discovered FO :D


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 02:05:07 PM
Yeah cant wait till christmas OOOOOOO


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 18, 2006, 02:15:23 PM
1 thing is REALLLLLLYYYYYY bothering me tho. No Dominion in the game  :hmmm:  But Remans and Cardassians are? oh come on :S See stuff like that ****** me off so much I might actually not play the mod just because of this little fact :S


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 04:17:12 PM
well its set 30 years after Nemesis right ?

and its set in the Alpha quadrant ?

So why the hell would the dominion still be around they went back to the Gamma quad


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Eufnoc on September 18, 2006, 06:04:13 PM
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well its set 30 years after Nemesis right ?

and its set in the Alpha quadrant ?

So why the hell would the dominion still be around they went back to the Gamma quad
haha he's got you there!


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 18, 2006, 08:31:59 PM
Why should the borg, they went back into the Delta quadrant  :blink:
the point it, if there is an enemy more brutal than dominion and borg combined Im pretty sure federation would seek help wherever they can and they have Odo who is one of the founders ;)
Also if this threat is really all that Im sure the Dominion would help the feds, cause they aint stupid and they do cooperate ;) Unlike Borg :P


Plus the fact remains that as it stands the dominion are the second strongest race in the galaxy (only Borg stronger). And if nothing else, they should at least include it for the MP :P

I get ****** for stuff like this, cause ST just doesnt include them in any of their games damn it. They werent in armada or sf command or bridge commander or......


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Eufnoc on September 18, 2006, 08:36:28 PM
wait was the dom was in a1


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: hypercube on September 18, 2006, 08:42:40 PM
DAMN that's many many units!


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 18, 2006, 10:57:55 PM
yeah it looks really cool and the borg invade the alpha quadrant again and by that point the dominion are probs back in the Gamme for definate

Anyway there are more than enough races and ships as it is to include the DOm


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Intimid8er on September 19, 2006, 12:11:16 AM
that certainly looks cool. good thing i kept my A1.


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 19, 2006, 12:12:04 AM
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wait was the dom was in a1


There were 2 NP ships available for them -.-


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yeah it looks really cool and the borg invade the alpha quadrant again and by that point the dominion are probs back in the Gamme for definate

Anyway there are more than enough races and ships as it is to include the DOm


Aye there are plenty of races, stupid ones tho. Might as well include the Ferengi while they're at it.
I mean its gonna be a great mod and all, its just these little details that are bothering me. Its not the number of races or ships, its the principle ;)


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Phantom on September 19, 2006, 12:27:37 AM
The issue with the Dominion have been brought up in recent meetings among the FT team and myself.


IF we can figure a subplot to why they would be in the Alpha Quadrant as the Dominion have not been heard of since the war as the two powers have simply kept out of each other's way, then we'll see. One plausable idea that was concieved was that Jem'Hadar were being used to aid the Cardassians rebuild, or some were even slaves to the Son'a due to Katracel White productions.

We are also thinking of adding the Tholians to the maps that involve the Klingon sector as the Tholians' would undoubtably take advantage of Qo'Nos' destruction and the fall of the Klingon Empire, but that too, is still brainstorming at the moment.

My only concern, is that now any MOD that is based after DS9, the Dominion are an instant must. Future Tense' story line is focused on the Alpha and Beta Quadrant invasion. The Borg have been slowly rebuilding since the Voyager incident, and are on the sidelines, assimilating damaged ships to build up a strong enough resistance force. With the Sernaix destroying colonies, planets and systems defences, the Borg are using them to aid them in assimilating the Alpha Quadrant, - there is no alliance between the two races however. The Borg want to assimilate the Sernaix, and the Sernaix would undoubtably waste no time in destroying any Borg ships that approach too close.



Adam,

 


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: hypercube on September 19, 2006, 12:54:58 AM
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The Borg have been slowly rebuilding since the Voyager incident

not much of an incident loosing a sphere and being infected, which they surelly fixed.
it's a good plotline and all, but it's just not very believeble, put a bacgrount to it, why are they attacking now, after all this time? And who is actually opposing them? Klingons you said were destroyed, so do the feds and romulans ally with eachother, do the other races(cardassians, breen, tholian....) join them in stopping the conquest of the alpha quadrant?


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 19, 2006, 02:12:29 AM
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The issue with the Dominion have been brought up in recent meetings among the FT team and myself.


IF we can figure a subplot to why they would be in the Alpha Quadrant as the Dominion have not been heard of since the war as the two powers have simply kept out of each other's way, then we'll see. One plausable idea that was concieved was that Jem'Hadar were being used to aid the Cardassians rebuild, or some were even slaves to the Son'a due to Katracel White productions.

We are also thinking of adding the Tholians to the maps that involve the Klingon sector as the Tholians' would undoubtably take advantage of Qo'Nos' destruction and the fall of the Klingon Empire, but that too, is still brainstorming at the moment.

My only concern, is that now any MOD that is based after DS9, the Dominion are an instant must. Future Tense' story line is focused on the Alpha and Beta Quadrant invasion. The Borg have been slowly rebuilding since the Voyager incident, and are on the sidelines, assimilating damaged ships to build up a strong enough resistance force. With the Sernaix destroying colonies, planets and systems defences, the Borg are using them to aid them in assimilating the Alpha Quadrant, - there is no alliance between the two races however. The Borg want to assimilate the Sernaix, and the Sernaix would undoubtably waste no time in destroying any Borg ships that approach too close.



Adam,

Thanx for anwsering man  :thumbsup:
I know what u mean, its just to me it seems logical that if the feds are getting a proper beating and if the enemy is as strong as u say they are going to ask for help anywhere they can get it. And I bet some admiral somewhere would remember that the Dominion are still a force not to be reckoned with and that they have an "insider" amongst the Dominion "gods". Surely they would at least try to recruit their help and also as I said b4 the Dominion arent stupid and they cooperate with whoever they need to if it serves their own needs. Plus Odo would surely want to help his old friends and he is in the Great Link after all ;)

Well even if you dont think thats plausable I think you SHOULD add them as a MP race only or something, cause u know people are gonna be playing this thing over net a lot and lots of people like the Dominion ;) Plus Id really like to see what would u come up with for future Dominion ships :D

Anyway keep up the good work, u just might get me playing A1 again :D Damn guys FO for A2 and FT for A1, Star Trek RTS is most defintly not dead ;)


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The Borg have been slowly rebuilding since the Voyager incident


not much of an incident loosing a sphere and being infected, which they surelly fixed.

Yeah and the whole queen dying incident ;) And unimatrix 1 blowing up and **** :D They took quite some damage :S


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Saijen on September 19, 2006, 02:34:53 AM
lol... They definately took some damage there Hypercube.  Remember that they lost not only the Queen (again), AND the unicomplex, but also 1 out of 6 of their transwarp hubs in the entire galaxy.  That's definately got to hinder them a bit in expansion or conquest.

And you guys, I can't tell you how much I am DIEING for Future Tense to come out.  When I heard it was for A1, I was extremely skeptical, but seeing their video teaser, and the screenshots, and all the details on their website for JUST the Federation's buildings and ships, I'm convinced.  And I agree with Baron, the Dominon is a MUST....

Which reminds me by the way Baron, until Phantom releases FT, I found another mod, the only other TC (Total Conversion) on armadafiles.com that is left for A1, until FT.  It's called Alliances.  And guess what.  It has the Dominion.   :D   And by god, I've gotten my arse kicked so many times with this mod.  It's the next best thing after FO and FT.  All to true that Star Trek RTS is not dead.  Alliances should be added to that list of great mods.  You ALL should check it out.

But once FT comes out, Alliances will be but a mere memory....  :shifty:


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Fullphaser on September 19, 2006, 02:53:59 AM
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The issue with the Dominion have been brought up in recent meetings among the FT team and myself.


IF we can figure a subplot to why they would be in the Alpha Quadrant as the Dominion have not been heard of since the war as the two powers have simply kept out of each other's way, then we'll see. One plausable idea that was concieved was that Jem'Hadar were being used to aid the Cardassians rebuild, or some were even slaves to the Son'a due to Katracel White productions.

We are also thinking of adding the Tholians to the maps that involve the Klingon sector as the Tholians' would undoubtably take advantage of Qo'Nos' destruction and the fall of the Klingon Empire, but that too, is still brainstorming at the moment.

My only concern, is that now any MOD that is based after DS9, the Dominion are an instant must. Future Tense' story line is focused on the Alpha and Beta Quadrant invasion. The Borg have been slowly rebuilding since the Voyager incident, and are on the sidelines, assimilating damaged ships to build up a strong enough resistance force. With the Sernaix destroying colonies, planets and systems defences, the Borg are using them to aid them in assimilating the Alpha Quadrant, - there is no alliance between the two races however. The Borg want to assimilate the Sernaix, and the Sernaix would undoubtably waste no time in destroying any Borg ships that approach too close.



Adam,
No offence to the Future tense team, but I always got the sence that the models were way underdeveloped (or atleast from screenshots it would seem) that they models are no where near the cabability of the developers of the mod, I mean, the team has some of the best modelers out there, and every time I see the mod, They just haven't really impressed me.

Was their some intentional reason to reduce the poly count? and level of textures?


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Cpt Ryan on September 19, 2006, 02:59:23 AM
possibly to make the mod more accessable to those with older comps


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 19, 2006, 03:28:18 AM
well most of the models are kept below 1500 Polys so they arent too bad and most of them look pretty good ingame most of the stuff you have seen were probably WIP
 


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 19, 2006, 04:08:30 AM
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Which reminds me by the way Baron, until Phantom releases FT, I found another mod, the only other TC (Total Conversion) on armadafiles.com that is left for A1, until FT. It's called Alliances. And guess what. It has the Dominion. biggrin.gif And by god, I've gotten my arse kicked so many times with this mod. It's the next best thing after FO and FT. All to true that Star Trek RTS is not dead. Alliances should be added to that list of great mods. You ALL should check it out.


I got to check that, thanx for the info man :)


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 19, 2006, 01:55:08 PM
Yeah ive downloaded Alliances too Ima test it later today, but Still there are just a few things in FT i want to see

Like TRilithium Torpedoes blowing up Planets ;)


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Eufnoc on September 19, 2006, 06:15:33 PM
woot i accidently come across my lost a1 disk last night!


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 19, 2006, 06:23:29 PM
Haha cool :P


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Phantom on September 19, 2006, 08:21:54 PM
I wanted to keep ships to around 1500 polies because there are going to be 6 races on a map, maps that are around 4 times larger than that of Armada's default (thats I guess about half the size of an A2 map) and with loadsa interactive surroundings such as the ability to destroy asteroids, destroy stars (and get a neat level 10 shockwave on your ***) the drain on any computer would be great, so 'most' ships are kept to around 1500 polies.

Future Tense models also have a unique noding system too. We have also uncovered a way to node a ship and edit probabilties via various odfs and weapon ordinance files to give cloaked ships 'shields' while cloaked - serving as armour plating for Reman warships.


The only models to exceed 2000 polies in Future Tense are: Nemesis Yard, Scimitar V3, Romulan V'Netta, USS Titan, Galaxy Class Refit II.

I wanted to ensure a smooth run whatever the computer. The Sernaix models however are around 2000 - 2500 as there are lots of alpha channels, animated textures, and spikes and other details on the mesh, plus to look biological they had to have lots of smoothing on them.



As for the Borg, they launched another attack between Nemesis and Future Tense. The Enterprise-E and several other ships were declared M.I.A. after a Borg cube began to attack the Federation near an ice nebula, but that has been the only attack since. The Borg have been buying time to rebuild and assimilate and reclone the queen (now portrayed once again by Susanna Thompson (Dark Frontier, Unimatrix Zero) who now talks and curses the player with a little help of editing words :P pretty neat.



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Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Frodo on September 19, 2006, 08:28:55 PM
sounds great adam, how is the MVAM coming along? i think u mentioned that on msn a while back and thats what i'm most interested in at the mo. btw checked out the site and the screenies look great!


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Phantom on September 19, 2006, 08:40:55 PM
If we can get the seperated sections to agree to player or AI commands then great.


At the moment it is facing the axe because, when you seperate the prometheus, the 3 peices split as planned. However after splitting they just sit there and disobey any player commands like, move jump to warp, attack, etc etc. very annoying.


We have one more idea for it, but it would significantly restrict the MVAM, but at the same time look the dog's bollocks too :D

If all our tests fail to get a Promie to seperate, then it'll be dropped. There is also no known way to get it to reconnect. Atleast with Seperating Galaxy saucer sections, you have the excuse to the phaser canon on her ventral side.


Needs more testing at this stage.



I have left a Dominion related message with the Team, to collect their views. I have also left a poll for public members to cast vote on. My only concern is that adding the Dominion 'may' push release into 2007.



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Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Frodo on September 19, 2006, 08:43:04 PM
ah sucks the prommie wud be a great ship to have in ur game! hope u can sort out the bugs mate!


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 19, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
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I have left a Dominion related message with the Team, to collect their views. I have also left a poll for public members to cast vote on. My only concern is that adding the Dominion 'may' push release into 2007.

w00t :D :D
Well you could also do a patch that would add them after the game has already been released :)
But I like where u're going with this hehe.


Sucky about the prommie tho, has no one yet figured out how to make that thing work? Cause it could be impossible u know :)


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Phantom on September 19, 2006, 09:50:08 PM
Most of the things in Future Tense are 'impossible' lol



You never know, we have another plan. Either way the Prometheus will be in Future Tense, whether it'll have MVAM remains to be seen at this stage



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Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Frodo on September 20, 2006, 01:03:34 AM
having it in the game would be sweet but even sweeter with the MVAM, hope u can get it working and the dominion too. like baron said a patch could be done later after u've released what ur working on now :)


Title: Startrek Armada Future Tense
Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 02:33:51 AM
well what ever works just wait n see ;)