Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

General => Small Talk => Topic started by: Intimid8er on September 16, 2006, 12:32:03 AM

Title: I Had I Hope, But Then I Had None
Post by: Intimid8er on September 16, 2006, 12:32:03 AM

There are those of you who have played C&C: Generals. Of you people SHOULD be the ones that know of Halogen: Real-Time Strategy Evolved. This is a halo mod for generals and has been hihgly anticipated for a few years. They finally got an e-mail from Bungie (the developers behind Halo) stating that they were infringing on copyrighted material. I was sooooo looking forward to this but now all I have is FO. :mellow:

Title: I Had I Hope, But Then I Had None
Post by: ewm90 on September 16, 2006, 12:56:42 AM

All you have is FO :mellow: you meen all I need is FO :)

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Post by: hypercube on September 16, 2006, 01:24:07 AM

i never played generals, so i really don't care :P and ewm is right ;)

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Post by: Intimid8er on September 16, 2006, 06:11:34 PM

wow, you guys are nice :(

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Post by: Skitzeh on September 16, 2006, 06:39:18 PM

arnt we just.

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Post by: Acidpunk on September 17, 2006, 12:24:14 AM

Actually C&C Generals is a great game with a great engine im very sad that the mod has been cancelled it really sucks seeing as its a game that is a hell of alot better than A2 :(

but FO is great so you can still play that

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Post by: Fullphaser on September 17, 2006, 12:32:34 AM

that is pathetic, as if bungie really gives an actual crap... see what M$ has done to them

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Post by: Acidpunk on September 17, 2006, 01:36:35 AM

No i reckon Bungie had a say in the matter seeing as Microsoft hasnt stopped mods for other games, i reckon its to do with the release of the movie ?

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Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 17, 2006, 03:45:47 AM

I never liked Generals all that much tbh. I really dont care much about its modifications :)

Title: I Had I Hope, But Then I Had None
Post by: Intimid8er on September 18, 2006, 11:49:00 PM

there are some pretty retarded mods for it but there are some fantastic ones. this mod would have been greeaatt!!!! i correct my previous post in that they recieved a letter from Microsoft not Bungie. :mad:

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Post by: cts006 on September 19, 2006, 02:56:34 AM

Well, I havent seen a decent halo mod for anything so far, this looks like a Microsoft kill. AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! M$ lmao.

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Post by: Fullphaser on September 20, 2006, 03:57:34 AM

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oh, well in that case I am not at all suprised -_-

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Post by: Acidpunk on September 20, 2006, 06:05:47 AM

Hmm now im wondering why MS would do such a thing but then again who knows with Halo3 on the way they want to run their on spin i guess

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Post by: Nivek on October 01, 2006, 11:17:56 PM

I dont know how to brake the bad news but Ensemble Studios is maken Halo Wars.. Which is a RTS...(A little convenient after they just shut down that mod :omg:) Hmmmm!

www.halowars.com (http://www.halowars.com)

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Post by: Fullphaser on October 02, 2006, 12:40:34 AM

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Yeah that is odd isnt' it -_- :huh:

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Post by: cts006 on October 02, 2006, 03:22:20 AM

not odd, gay. Since halowars is an x360 exclusive, and this was a mod for a PC game. two completely different marktes. Also, If this dosent even come out for the PC when Live anywhere launches, im gonna snap.

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Post by: Rhaz on October 02, 2006, 04:32:21 PM

It will.

Halo is only an Xbox Game!

Yes, until they released it on PC.

They don't understand how poorly a 360 RTS will do, therefore they will have no choice but to port it over to us.

Halo Wars will most likely follow the trend set by games such as Dawn of War, but more so into the modern sense of Games such as Age of Empires 3, Company of Heroes and Empire at war.

This is the modern RTS, smaller armies of very well modelled and physics affected units, versus massed, massed groups of simple graphical units (Starcraft, A2, ect).

This, in my oppinion is the future of all RTS.

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Post by: Acidpunk on October 02, 2006, 05:42:06 PM

well Supreme commander has ******* ridiculous ammounts of soldiers and great graphics so its not always small ;)

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Post by: cts006 on October 02, 2006, 09:37:59 PM

I was thinking a simmilar thing of the game not performing well as a console game. Leading to a PC port. But as it stands I belive it is an x360 exclusive. Or wont be out in time to matter *COUGH HALO2 COUGH*

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Post by: RedShirt on October 03, 2006, 01:03:10 AM

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This is the modern RTS, smaller armies of very well modelled and physics affected units, versus massed, massed groups of simple graphical units (Starcraft, A2, ect).

This, in my oppinion is the future of all RTS.

Heh, in that case, the future of RTS sucks ***.

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Post by: Fullphaser on October 03, 2006, 01:20:36 AM

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Heh, in that case, the future of RTS sucks ***.

Look at Fleetops, in most cases you never have more than 20-30 ships ;) unless you really need that many :P but 30 ships on average, mabye more depending on the intesity of the game. I know some MP games get insane.

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Post by: Nivek on October 03, 2006, 01:23:04 AM

they will most likely eventually releaase it to P.C. because 1. Halo 1 and now 2 are coming out for P.C. and they HOPEFULLY keep with tradition and release it for computer 2. RTS are best made for computers because of the controls 3. they will probably want to bring in some more money...like all companys!

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Post by: Acidpunk on October 03, 2006, 01:32:14 AM

when the heck do u only have 20-30 ships play Mp with us ;)

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Post by: RedShirt on October 03, 2006, 04:01:59 PM

I'm upset because Starcraft and AOE2 are probably the 2 best rts games ever made.

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Post by: cts006 on October 03, 2006, 08:24:49 PM

AOE3 kicks AOE2's ***. SWGB kicks Aoe2'S ***. But starcraft is still a pretty good RTS.

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Post by: RedShirt on October 03, 2006, 10:26:12 PM

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AOE3 kicks AOE2's ***. SWGB kicks Aoe2'S ***. But starcraft is still a pretty good RTS.

OMG SWGB?!?! That PILE OF CRAP?!?!?! :lol:

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Post by: cts006 on October 04, 2006, 06:28:21 AM

SWGB is an amazing RTS. It kicked the *** of AOE2.

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Post by: Acidpunk on October 04, 2006, 08:10:36 AM

Well right now i can honestly say the best RTS of all time will always be STarcraft

but Company of heroes kicks Aoe ;)

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Post by: cts006 on October 04, 2006, 08:49:42 PM

Starcraft simply becvuase it will run on anything, and is still fun?

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Post by: 8_of_11 on October 04, 2006, 10:52:08 PM

Yes. The graphics are silly but still dark and awesome.

Anyways, I like RTS stuff where you command a whole crapload of troops in High-D uber graphics with physics!

Needless to say, I'm glad I've got 60-70 more years for them to actually make something like that...

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Post by: Casper on October 05, 2006, 06:45:04 AM

i kind of like dawn of war myself.

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Post by: RedShirt on October 06, 2006, 02:18:17 PM

DoW has great graphics, but crappy gameplay.

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Post by: Frodo on October 07, 2006, 02:32:28 AM

right DoW i got - Dawn of War but what are the rest of the abrievations???? i've never really been into Real Time Strategy games but Flops and Company of Heroes are good plus some of the Lord of the Rings ones :thumbsup:

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Post by: cts006 on October 07, 2006, 04:39:09 AM

AOE = age of empires
SWGB = star wars galactic battlegrounds

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Post by: Rhaz on October 07, 2006, 07:02:55 PM

Starcraft is amazing.
AOE 2 was great, but it didn't break much new ground.
Ground Control 2 was good, but underappreciated.
AOE 3 / DoW set the new graphics standards, they're pretty good.
Company of Heroes is amazing. (Best gameplay I have seen in a while).
Star Wars Galatic Battlegrounds was amazing, but only for it's amazing trigger system.

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Post by: Acreo Aeneas on October 07, 2006, 08:21:26 PM

the AOE2 engine was used for SWGB. And already by then, it was getting way too old to base a RTS game on.

I have gone through and played AOE1 and 2 numerous of times, and right now it's been sitting on my shelf. It just is not my type of RTS.

Starcraft = good RTS.
Armada/A2 (w/ FO) = great RTS.

And DoW was much better as a board game with pewter soldiers than it was at being a PC RTS game. The RTS version of it really sucked imo.

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Post by: RedShirt on October 09, 2006, 06:48:59 PM

Starcraft is IMO the best RTS of all time because it did nothing wrong.

Balance?
Perfect.

Gameplay?
Addicting.

Story?
Exciting.

Races?
Amazing.

Graphics?
Timeless.

Modding?
Easy.

Suppot?
Beautiful.

Community?
Dedicated.

All in all, Starcraft has to be the best RTS ever.

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Post by: Fullphaser on October 09, 2006, 10:12:20 PM

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You've got to be kidding? Starcraft was a.) a noob rts b.) way to darn fast for the defensive player c.) a rip completly from Warhammer, and I mean all the way down d.) limited and predictable

balance was ok, but starcraft is definatly showing its age these days.

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Post by: Acidpunk on October 10, 2006, 12:30:41 AM

No sorry i cant agree with that

Starcraft will always hold a special place to me because of how good it was

THe balance was perfect no race was better than the other

it wasnt a noob rts as it was pretty damn amazing when it was released

it wasnt too fast for a defensive player as i could defend just fine on Mp

and it wasnt a complete rip of warhammer there were alot of things from aliens actually

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Post by: Fullphaser on October 10, 2006, 11:27:30 PM

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really? the tyranids and the zerg are essintially the same race, and the protos and eldar share some similarities, and the space marines and space marines... welll you see where that is going. :P

as for the gameplay I had dial up when I had Star Craft so multiplayer was not acceptable.

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Post by: girhen on November 15, 2006, 10:39:01 PM

Never played AOE, but I love SWGB. Empire at War was good at first, but doesn't seem to have the lasting value. I like the old RTS style more.

As for Starcraft, I never got into it. I just didn't like something about it, but I did love Warcraft. I still play it, I paid $2 and got the battlenet edition from EB :). Starcraft did have an interesting Mobile Suit Gundam mod, but the mod was never really finished enough to be good, it was a little too flawed. The guys failed to recode some race-specific stuff that really messed up the playability.

As for having 20-30 ships at once: Do you only play SP? No offense intended, but that sounds WAAAY too little. I remember a 4v4 I did online one day, each person had well over 100 advanced ships, until our enemy warped in and shut off our weapons and self destructed and used superweapons out of the wazoo, and all that caused me to CTD...but anwyway, I usually have 5-6 fully used battlegroups minimum. I like to thrash everyone in one sweep whenever possible, rather than an occasional 3 man assault.

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Post by: Acidpunk on November 16, 2006, 06:47:24 PM

i know what u mean abou the similarities between WH and Sc but

Starcraft was probs teh best game around RTs wise for years there was nothing that could even come close to it

and girhen yeah heck i remember how many carrier groups i used to have it used to be absolutely ridiculous :P