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I had all the spec made, told them excatly what I wanted, I made it clear that i also wanted to buy now pay in 9 months time (An offer they do), by shear luck my laptop had got stuck in the system and instead of taking 24 hours took 5 days, i phoned and asked wtf was going on, they apogalised and said it will move to phase 3 by the end of the day. phase 3 is payment so i asked wtf is going on again, they had forgot to do put on the pay later option, they would have over drawn me by over £1000 (work your own currency out b1tch). I was told they could not edit it i needed to cancel and replace the order which i did, spent 20 min filling of a finace agreement over the phone to wait 24 hours and get an email saying they don't give 18 year old's credit (THEN WHY MAKE ME FILL OUT A CREDIT AGREEMENT YOU ASKED ME MY AGE FFS :mad: ) as i was declined i asked if my dad could get the credit, we had to cancel another order and start again, this time it's gone through ok ( i hope ) the only advantage was the fact that the price dropped about £100 by shear luck the next day.

I am very very ****** at Alienware.

You do know the new intell and AMD dule brain core dule prosesers are coming out at the end of ther year with are 40% faster?

than after that intrel and AMD are going to put quode brin proseser. with will maker you new one feel like a weelbaro.

Injoy youer weelbaro.  :P

Not to michon that vistas coming out in like 5 munts.  :lol:


Keep on braging... I am gona get me a mac with CS3 at the end of the year and put your weel baro to shame.  :D  

heh

the laptop seems great mate wish i had the cash to get 1 like that! i've had problems with alienware aswell, they agreed to give me credit over the phone and left me thinking my lap top was on its way but nooooo they decided to send me a letter stating i've been refused credit, no clear reason in the letter so phoned em up. "system error" they said. wankstains!  

What do you expect for customer service, they are pwnd by dell.

Good for you ewm, wasting money on a machine with half the power of an equivelently priced PC. Since Ph*toshop runs just as good on a PC as it does on a MAC.

The only things PCs have over mcas is networking, prise be cuss thay suck, vido cards, and vires/spy ware/mall ware.

Macs have bilt in sucrty, indestry leeding desin and interfeace, Hier color levals, hiere refres rates, more Bits, hier copasity for RAM, Easer to use, verchuly no vires no spy ware no add ware no mall ware, Macs are more findly to PC than PC is frindly to mac, Macs have no teriles soft ware on tham just free stuff that is 100x beter than PCs calculater, Macs are more relibale, And MAC run Windows XP.

Suck on that PCs.

yah, a 5% market share is great built in security! If you have noticed windows also has a firewall. All you need is a NAT to be secure anyway BAH! Video cards... how is that a negitive... cuz I realy love having to just buy a new mac rather than update a specific piece of hardware. Viruses... once again the 5% market share thing, who wnats to write a virus that will infect 3 people unless its specificaly targested to certain people. I dont get spyware anyway. Using FF and having comon sense keeps me safe.

Industry leading design is great, ohh an extra $150 for it to come in black... sign me up!

Higher capacity for ram... anything over 1GB has been shown to have diminishing returns, with I belive over 2gb leading to decresed performance in anything but servers... which are more of a linux/windows rackspace evenvironment.

Macs being easier to use is your personal opinion, but does not in anyway constitute a fact, since each person works differently when faced with simmilar chalenges.

Higher color levels are based on video card and monitor, same with refresh rates... so a mac will actuly have worse refresh rates than a pc depending on hardware. Besides that macs with the LCD/Plsasma displays dont have a refreshrate. Also, the apple cinema displays are overpriced for poor performance, Ive seen monitors that kick there *** for under half the price.

More bits???? what the hell man... honestly... could you not talk out of your *** for a min. You give no description of bits for what. a Bit is just a term for 1/8th of a byte. so your syaing it has more 1/8ths of bytes. That means alot.

Mac runs windows XP, lol bootcamp my ***.

1) and thats be cuss people by PCs more than macs ether becus of price, networking, games but when it comes to eny thing that realy needs relibality are good looks you go with a mac and that magority just be cuss the magorty duss some thing duss not meen that some thing is beeter look the magority voted in Bush!!!

2)Windows fire wall are you tolking about that cheep imagtation of a soft war fier wall thay call servis pack 2?

3) vido cards are not negative I did not say the things I was listing was negative I said what PC has over mac.

4) pcs have update but unlike with macs up dates thare is a risk of crashing after for good updating.

5) Well as I sed up thare evin if you get rid of all spy and add ware you still can have root kits and mall ware wich are all most inposabule evin for a computer sines mager root kits can be put on virese to.

6) I said "indestry leding desine and interface" when ever mac has come out wiith some thing PC coppys it.

7) That mite be true I dont know a nuff about if but for some things like hiend prosesing you will need exstra ram.

8) Well meny usher face exsperts have dun studys on this and thay have shown that macs make more cens to new users. - how clicks start to shut down?

9) is more than that the os its self has to be abule to handal hier refesh rats or it will look jumpy. I have heard the egsact opasit. When you by a new PC the reresh rate is set very low untill you tern it up. I have a hard time looking at some PCs after looking at a mac.

10) macs run on 64 bits pc run on 32 dont beve me go rite click on your desk top got to propertys than settings that whare is says color quollaty you will see it duss not go above 32bits.
 

jesus christ superstar! EUFNOC look what u've done! :lol:

i once blew up an iMac for my friend because he didnt like the mouse and the colour. i think they're rubbish. a pc can do so much more and its easier to use IN MY OPINION ALRITE!?

ewm i'm sorry but please use a spell checker, i was really struggeling there.

Well Ive only used PCs thus far, I actually never saw a mac in real life :S
Everybody I know uses PCs and they are SOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper and better in performance its incredible really. Basically I dunno what macs have over PCs, nor do I care. I wont change on a mac just yet lol

Oh also PCs do run on 64bits, well some programs do at least, also there is this thing, called Windows XP 64 which actually works in 64bits :P And of course 64bit processors are a standart for PCs nowadays, so your a bit wrong there ewm :P


Eufnoc: U've bought a great comp, too bad mine is still better tho :P and at the cost of a 1000 EUR much cheaper as well :P It isnt a laptop tho :(
Oh also dual core processors are already released I own 1 :P AMD 4200+  B)  

It has a thread of 64bits with it can simulat for some program but i whould hardly call that runing in 64 bits.

-=B!G=-The Black Baron let me gess you voted for Bush dident you..lol I can tell be cuss you are useing the same agument people how voted for bush did you could all most chage all the word pc for Bush.

Frodo  thats be cuss you used a PC 1st if you used a mac and a PC at the same time you would like the mac I am sher of that. how likes the blow screen of deth?

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Eufnoc, If i had to spell check every thing it whould not be worth my time to post. If you can read it that good anuff.

Nah I voted for Jan¹a :P who is now the prime minister of SLOVENIA (MIND THE COUNTRY!!!!)

What arguments did I use tho? :S

Well if you cude of you would have...

My pont is that you cant just say I think its better but I dont say why. Thats what people how voted for that ingerint shmuck.

But I am shere you are smartter than that ;-D

Hehe, well obviously I cant say anything for sure. But I can say things I have read, heared,....

I have looked at macs prices and stats a year ago I think and compared them to PCs of the same pricerange and the difference was amazing. Im sure mac offers more stability and stuff but the thing is I dont really need it lol. What the hell do I care if I have to reinsall windows after a year if I get the thing for half the cost and everything I need works on it ;) U get where Im going with this right :P

About Bush and Kerry, they are both dumbarses, I simply wouldnt vote :P

First off price is a factor for sure, PC's give as good or better performance for much cheaper. By networking, I take it that you mean servers? Which without we would have no interweb. I dont know about you, but I like to have a stable system when playing games. If you need good looks you can just get a new case or mod your case. Which brings me to the point that I dont have to pay $150 extra to get it in black. I never said that the majority always knows what is right. But what shields the mac from viruses/spyware/ect. is that they have such a small market share, no one cares enough to write viruses.  Dude, politics belong in a POLITICAL THREAD!


Yes the windows firewall, wich does a decent job of protecting a computer. Also, beyond that you can always have a NAT, something everyone should have, and most probably do unknowingly. Or there are many great distro's of linux that have excelent built in firewalls, and having an even smaller market share than mac's are even less prone to spyware/viruses.


I have never had my PC crash randomly from properly installing a piece of new hardware. If you take care with your equipment it will be fine.


No way... rootkits can be put in viruses. Or they can be put on your mac by a sony music CD... I have no rootkits, viruses, trojans or spyware on my computer. Just from using comon sense. If you are ssaying that you do not have the comon sense to survive on the internet with a PC, than go have your mac.


LOL! do you know where apple got there ideas back in the day... from none other than... xerox. Thats right, xerox was ready to unveil there revolutionary computer user interface until apple stole it.


Bah, High end processing like rendering is usualy done in a render farm or cluster anyway, reducing the need for massive ammounts of ram per system.


'Well meny usher face exsperts have dun studys on this and thay have shown that macs make more cens to new users. - how clicks start to shut down?' Huh?

There is no refresh rate on a mac.... LCD monitors work in an entirely different way than CRT's... Thus making any PC with an LCD monitor also have no refresh rate. Refresh rates start low on a pc for compatibility reasons. You are always free to adjust them higher. Than get an lcd monitor for the PC you are using if you cant handle looking at it.


Windows XP 64-bit edition, is a fully fledged 64-bit OS. Not to mention all the many flavors of 64-bit linux that you can get as well.  

Why people don't use mac

(http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060513.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
 
Omg EWM you really need to ******* get a life and ******* learn about what your talking have u even thought before you typed ??

talking about the windows firewall being bullshit it works fine ive ran both my computers without anti Virus for over 2years and ive had no problems

you talk about spyware i have never had spyware on my computer ever

If you know what your doing then you will never have a problem if your an idiot buy a mac lol

to be honest i cant see why anyone would want a peice of tech thats 2 years behind Pc's its like **** the only good thing about Mac's is that apple owns the rights to Logic and Final cut if it wasnt for those two peices of software no one would ever use them  

Ps. WHat the **** are you on about


EWM

Well meny usher face exsperts have dun studys on this and thay have shown that macs make more cens to new users. - how clicks start to shut down?

Are you just plain thick ??

(http://www.dumbphotos.com/images/Computers/412-windows-vista.jpg)

The picher says it all.


I hear that vista is evin more bugy and has evin more suverity flaws than XP duss.

Thats the reson I am now swiching from PCs to MACs.


When ever you pile oprating systoms on top of one a nuther like pan cakes you are going to have probloms lets see how meny we are up to now:

doss
3.1
95
98
NT
ME
XP
Vista

Its not looking good for pcs....

Good thing mac was smart and did not do this insted thay let you loch a older coppy of MAC os to run older apps that runs as a program.

PC is going down one OS at a time.

Do you know what the **** you are talking about.....?

Seriously

Ive been using Windows Vista for like what 2months now and i find it to be absolutely bug free for me...

and what makes it even worse with you is that you have no basis to your argument go do some research on ******* vista and see its not the same operating system as 9x its a Nt based system which is completely different

and also one thing stop refering to windows as Pc's there are other operating systems that run on Pc's

do i have to mention the Distros of Linux that mac cant even touch with its precious Tiger ?

Thats be cuss its n ot mane streem and people have not realy started exspoting it yet. Of cores windows filled in all the old bugs and made new ones meny new ones just you whate ans see.

Why do you think it was held back so long????

Your seriously stupid go do some research on Macs before you get all up there arse and start brown nosing them anymore seriously

Linux Distro's are a hell of alot better than macs

and remember Mac's have no where near the compatibility of windows machines so when it comes to the net and u wanna download something or a piece of software dont expect to be as easy as it is now for you



Ps, That pic is a fake its not even a NT machine Error screen its a 9x which means the pics has been photoshoped  :lol:
 

My facts come from tech revowes in the new york times and washingtion post.

I have its are to see some thing is bad if you are blind to eavry thing elss


It duss not look photoshoped all the destortions are thare in the image that whould say if some thing was photoshoped.

you read reviews in the washington post are you a ******* idiot ?

If you really wanna go read a Review go to a good site like Tomshardware

And anyway with software its about user preference so go to the ******* Vista download page and get it and test it urself before u talk anymore crap


By the way have u ever used a mac cause i certainly have and i think they are digusting for what you have to pay for them it would be cheaper to go ******* Invest in an Alienware  

What facts???
 

Washington post has 1,000,000,000,000,000,000x reputation than Tomshardware

If the washington post lise its all the cover story of evry mager news out fit in the USA and meny arownd the world.

If Tomshardware lies no one cares or if thay do its in blogs or uther trival things.  

have you ever been to tomshardware ?

seriously you know what go the Inquirer now that site will give you examples of your precious Macs

Do you know how many **** ups there are on those things **** they ******* explode and there is proof

and again answer my question have u ever used one ?

yes because a newspaper that is run by media moguls, is much more reliable in tech news than a website that is run by the people who review hardware and do this for a living. A dedicated tech site that does actual performance reviews of hardware has 10,000,000,000,000,000,000x the credibility of the washington post in computer related maters.

http://www.mac-sucks.com/switch_why.php (http://www.mac-sucks.com/switch_why.php)

now this is funny

Also if the mac os is so good why are they now offering computers that come with dual partition hard drives right from the factory which has windows on one of the partitions and they are now using intel chips to run there machians so in the end you are telling me to buy a much pricer machine so i can have my windows and intel products run through substanered hardware and get half the proformance of a custam built pc i don't think so. Mac is dead and there resant changes only proves how desperate they really are.

apart from being faked you do realises that windows nt onwards was a new system andi think vista is a new teck as well. fianly ofcourse it's more bugy and secrit issue's IT'S IN BETA MORON!

Ewm, your getting forum raped. you keep bring up the "blue screen of death". well ive never had one since i got my first comp way back in the mid 90s. i mean who else has actually had them to the point that they feel they can consistantly complain about it.  what your reffering to was an OLD joke from back in the day when computers were young.

Are you guys on drugs the post has meny more speshalists at its desposal than that web site.

The post gets thare news from AP with gets thare news from the leading exsperts in the feeld thay have the ability to have face to face intervows with bill gates, steeve jobs and all the uther heads of tech companys and leading computer sinetists + the WP has its own tech teem and finachal reposters that detect trinds..

and you I did go to the site. Your site (tomshardware.com) has ben arown for just 10y WP  and new york times and the post  has ben arown for over 100y and I bleve the new york times is older: info on the post:

The paper was founded in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins and by 1880, became the first newspaper in Washington, D.C. to publish daily

The Washington Post is the largest and may be one of the oldest newspapers in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It gained worldwide fame in the early 1970s for its Watergate investigation by reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, which played a major role in the undoing of the Nixon presidency.

You are drunk if you think that site is more credabule than the post.

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I have the facts on my side you can keep debating with tomshardware.com as long as you wont I will just wach and laff.

Eufnoc If i am a moron I hate to think what that makes you....

Yes its a bata its ben held back for at lest a year now be cuss of bugs. Mac duss not have that problom thay reals on time and you can be cofadent that your mac will work and wont crash for what seems like no reson crash.

Whay do you think it is fake? Windows Xp all thay way down to 95 have used the blow screen of deth whay whould vista not thay are bilt on top of all the old oprtating systoms.

(http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/gm0079/imgs/a/9/a9e28eaa.jpg)

ewm the image you posted has been manipulated (edited), to be a joke pic.
as for having interviews with all these high ranking personel (Gates, Jobs etc, etc..) they are hardly going to say that their products suck or that they stole the idea for it from someone else are they. meanwhile, on tomshardware.com there are people who know what they are talking about but have no connection to the company in question (otherwise known as an independant). they are not going to glamourise something thats crap or say something is crap without just cause.

its as simple as that really. you can say you will just sit back and "laff" but the simple fact is that it is YOU that is being laughed at.

If you real bluve that a small tech site knows better than a news paper that brot down a US presadent You need help.

Small companys like that cant all ways be trusted. Companys pay tham to skuwe facts thay add in persal opion and roomers and state tham as fact.

And why do you think its ben munipulated?

FFS, who cares if that paper brought down a president. H E LL Bill Clinton brought himself down, you cant beat that. small company's cant be trusted huh? so only the large ones are saints right. raise up.


er... as a joke

Bill clinte never brot him self down people tryed to bring him down with a frivals law soot all he did is get layed and if you think thats a crime you are realy confused and posabuly sick.

Be cuss you dont like it has to be fake???? I am mising some thing here?

Bush you meen is the one how is not only bringing him self down but his partty along with him.

Ewm this has nothing to do with politics just because these news papers can "take down Presidents" does not me they know jack **** about computers.
 

No your right thay don but what thay do have is acces to the people how define the direction of computers. thay get news about technolagy meny times faster than uther non news organisations.


and the idea that a site thats ben arownd for only 10ys whould some how have more accese to the people how have the informatin than a world know new paper it very very very starge.
 

BEST TOPIC EVER! :lol:

ewm i've never had a bluescreen on my new computer, only when installing bad copies of Windows XP. i used to use 1 of those funky iMacs in school for my media work, they were ok-ish but i preferred a pc with windows or redhat. also i used macs when i was 11, who remembers claris works?! :lol: used them in lessons until the school got a good deal off Dell. PCs are better then iMacs. Bush is a **** i agree, but he is what his people make him. i liked clinton, i wud have done the same thing in his position! now ewm shut the hell up about politics! its boring unless its scandalous! ooh yeah baby! ;)

LoL Ive had a blue screen on my PC a couple of times :D But that was my fault and in no way Windows are responsible ;) Basically I decided to reinstall windows but b4 that to see what happens if you delete as much files as u can in the windows folder lol. U can imagine the rest :P
As I said, it was in no way windows guilt :D

haha i've done that also!  

I had it hapin for driver conflicts or some times when dellet a program evin thow add remove progrrams compnets are left that can cose the blue screen of deth all so updating the computer SP2 aspeshly can cose the blue screen of deth. Add aware, spy ware, moul ware vireses and root kits can the blue sreen of deth.

I have had it meny times from instoled drivers to removing computer programs not realted to the oprating systom.

The fact that you have it is thare folt. If thay desined thare oprating systom better to pervent such a mistake it would have hapined.

You saiy PCs are better but you dont say why? I have givn facts. If you dont have facts its just opion.

ur dyslexic so obviously ur at a disadvantage with computers and ur thick as a plank sometimes so the blue screens u've had are ur fault, but u can't help ur dyslexia. and u are a fcuking arsewipe, ur sayin u've been given the facts that PCs are ****, right ok fine ur statement has been noted. now look at another fact - a fcuking huge minority prefer PCs. like me. and u. bet ur using a pc now! another fact - pc's are easier to upgrade. a mac wud probably struggle to cope after a few years and the solution wud be to replace it. expensive. a pc - replace certain components if needed. another fact for u - alienware are dodgy  :hmmm:

edit - by pc's i mean the window's operating system.

 

How lital we know my dislexica helps me understand computers beater so I am a avatege.

Frodo and you cant help being unegucated.

Thats be cuss the goverment invested in that and made tham the indestry standerd. When all the people how worked for the govment came home thay felt more cofterbule with a PC so thats what thay got and from thare on out thay spred.

Bill gates is a beter business man than steev jobes but steev jobs cares more about the consumer.

Achaly mac are as easy to upgrade as PCs sens the bace hardwhare is very simaler.

ewm about the paper thing, you have to remember a paper try to sell thing's if the world love's bill gates and wants to kiss his arse, they will if the world wants to set him alive, they will publish negative things about him and his product.

it happens with everything, and as with barron i have only got the bsod when I have ****** something up so :P  

Thay do say neagtive things about his products all the time but people dont lison and or thay think need the PC becuss thats what thare work has. People also by PCs for vido games be cuss of thare vido cards unfochitly thay dont relist that MACs may not beabule to have as big 3d gams as PCs do but thay make up for it with thare colors, and smuth seemles moviment.

what are you brabeling about 64 bit colors? hä!? All new CPU, now use a 64 bit width bus-system and 64bit width Registers!!! AND all new mac's Shipped out are using Intel CPU's-> you could run M$ Windoof(WinStupid aka Windows) on them too. 64. bit Colors are prob. a Graphics Card feature. Now to Alienware: Going and buy any PC there is ridiculous, because you're paying extra for the brand "Alienware".

AND FINALLY: STOP THAT ******* HOLY WAR; LEAVE THAT FOR THE WINDOWS vs. MAC NEWSGROUPS-> THIS TOPIC IS SO ANNOYING!

****, I wish I could be a Malkavian (wtf, I can't even write |)4mn ???) Crap

Well windows XP duss not have 64 bit color and we will see if thay put it in vista.

MAC has had 64 bit color for a long time now and PC has ben staying at 32 bit color.

Its all up to the windows people to see if thay put it in. I was looking at the reqierments of vista VS OSx vista has 2x the need of MAC OSx Windows have all ways systom hogs.
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No one is foring you to read the topic Smoerebroed.
 

ok 64 bit depths to display colours? Do you know a good crt (Classical PC Screen) with that high quality to display that color depth properly? Oh and this topic started with Alienware, not with  M$ versus Apple

The Topic Vista is another one; I say that 50% of the System minimum specs are swallowed by Aero-glass-stuff(crap) and a large overhead to create a colorful Teletubbie OS for the typical Soccermom and her kids  :x  :->
And yes the hardware minimum specs for Vista are ridicolous and insane, especially that the DirectX 9 GPU is just used for irrelevant eye candy stuff (aero); hmm Marketing and "Style" made their way into the geek-universe; hooray :->

Please understand my opinion about that boring holy/flame war between Windows and OS X. Mac PC's are perfect for people who work with graphics and videos, ok. but this endless discussion are just boring and annoying.



 

Btw, its not MS (Who calls tjem M money any more honestly) versus apple, it spawned into Macintosh computers versus PCs.

Ewm, we are not saying that is a photoshopted image because we dont like it, we are calling it photoshoped because that is a windows 9x (ie 95,98,ME) Blue screen of death. Not an NT one, such as NT, XP, Server 2003, Vista.

please continue this thread on the mac vs PC issue in this thread, http://forum.fleetops.net/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=2610 (http://forum.fleetops.net/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=2610)

i swear Ewm ur an idiot seriously i dont understand why u are defending something that has no reason to defend really ??

64bit colour depth who the **** is gonna use that u aint gonna see a benefit ?

as for Mac hardware that sucks like a little **** and as for the oS no offense but i prefer Xp that **** works perfect for me on my notebook (ferrari 3400) ive neve rhad a blue screen so go **** urself

and **** macs ive used them in school for a long time when i was doing music and they suck *** they are slow and laggy compared to a well configured pc


end of the day Macs are overpriced peices of ****
 

hear hear

let's bring clarity in your writing, shall we?

so dos and 3.1 are close relatives (win 3.1 doesn't run without dos)
win 95 based on the win 3.1 correct the same applies to win 98 in parts

NT my frind is the left over OS/2
and all the other OS are based on NT (2000, XP AND Vista)
ME is ******* of both; If your writing stuff stick to the facts you know;

****, now i contributed to the war again, f0ck! wth I can't even write dam(n)!!
and please stop cursing and b1tching at each other ?(correct sentence)? I think there are better ways to express that you disagree with someone not "You're such an idiot"

just for the fun of it i built alienware's max desktop to see how much it comes to this is inc vat and delivery (delivery cost £204.58)

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional UK with SP2
Warranty: AlienCare 3-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return
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take a guess then click below to find out if you was close, don't say the price below once you seen it!

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thats pretty standard ive done it before with alienware and dell and Apple  

Apple pricing is reciculous, me and my buddy made a comp that had:
an FX-62

4gb of ram, 800mhz ddrII

3TB of hard drive space at 7200RPM (4 750GB seagate drives)

300GB of HD space at 10k RPM (2 Raptor-X drives)

4x Sony DVD+-RW DL

1x sound blaster audigy x-fi platinum (with the drive bay thing)

2x XFX GeForce 7950 GX2 Dual GPU 520M Xtreme / 1GB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card

a $300 UPS

a $100 case

a $240 Power Supply, 660watt

a like $220 mobo

and it came in like $200-400 less than the apple with the Quadro FX 4500, 512mb, 4 gb of ram (667mhz ddrII), 2TB of hd space, standard proc setup, 2x super drives or what ever.


Wich comp would you guys rather have, ohh yah... The PC had a fire wire card and gigabit lan came on the mobo...

@ ewm

I dont know why you say that XP doesnt run 64 bits. Most XP OS are 32 bit but if you have the hardware (more on that in a sec) you can buy and run a 64 bit version of XP.
The hardware for 64 bit processing is so expensive and new right now that most people who buy a computer are not going to opt for that.

Now I agree/disagree with you a little bit about a Mac. My grandmother used the same Mac for 9 years ( 1996 - 2005 ) and then finally bought an XP based laptop and had no problem with ease of use. Macs do last a long time if cared for properly.

lol my grandmar brought a mac, that don't help his arguement

lol im just saying that the user issues here are not even worthy of mention

I agree with that completely i also think that Alien ware make some really good high end laptops but not the most portable of ones there a bit heavy but very powerful i reckon acer do the best budget laptops and if you want a pc well build it yourself its really not that hard.

They lack portability in there baterly life aswell. All gaming notebooks are essentialy desktop replacements.

yeah well i have one of the gaming laptops/gaming and i tell you what 3h battery life is more than enough for me :)

yere 3 hours is enough its only business people who need the ones which go on for 10 hous or more.

You have to realize man, Intel and such hardware that have normally been found on Windows/Linux systems have just recently been added to the supported hardware list on Apple's/Mac's.

So, of course they are going to be expensive, it's brand spanking new to Apple computers.

Also you have some expensive hardware on there buddy.  The FX-62, 4GBs of RAM, 3TB of HD space (those Raptor's cost money), x-fi sound card, dual 7950s.  Hell just the pair of 7950s would run you at least $650.  Then you go compare it with a system that is not even equalivent in specs to your Apple system.  OMG dude, the dual 7950s costs more than that Quadro FX 4500!  Not to mention, you have 1TB of space less.  But overall both systems I don't recommend to anyone but those who want or have the money to waste a on top-of-the-line system.  In a few short months, you won't even have bragging rights.

And in regards to MS OSs since DOS....

I've gone through each and every one of them (except for Vista since it is not full version), and I have to say, some were a pain in the butt sometimes, but usually they had their upsides.  Now most people don't take this into consideration, but SUPPORT is one of the big upsides with going with the current OS from MS.  And of course COMPATIBILITY is also a major concern especially in regards to software apps.  So as much as those are for Apple's keep arguing that PCs are going down the drain, look at what Apple has done, it has gone to lengths by adopting Intel processors (and other hardware) to try to attract Windows/PC's consumers over to use Apple systems.  And certainly, one known downside is that Apple based software ran slower on Intel CPUs.  Of course the fix for that is to rewrite the code so it is compatible for Intel CPUs.

Overall, what I'm trying to say is that, both sides have their pros and cons, but it's nothing to start an argument over.

In fact, I started computing on both DOS PC and a Mac LCIII.  And I've used Apple's and PCs side by side up shortly after Apple's release of their G4 line.  Both are unique, and there are some major upsides at this point in time with regards to Apple systems.