Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

General => Star Trek => Topic started by: ewm90 on December 12, 2005, 06:56:28 PM



Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: ewm90 on December 12, 2005, 06:56:28 PM
Challenger-class
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...cle/122941.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/TNG/article/122941.html)
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/challenger.htm (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/challenger.htm)

Wambundu-class
http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/...rs/wambundu.htm (http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/others/wambundu.htm)
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...cle/123660.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/TNG/article/123660.html)

Istanbul-class
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...cle/123008.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/TNG/article/123008.html)
http://www.trekships.org/istanbul.htm (http://www.trekships.org/istanbul.htm)

Niagara-class
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/niagara.htm (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/niagara.htm)
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...cle/123387.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/article/123387.html)

Yorkshire-class
http://www.trekships.org/yorkshire.htm (http://www.trekships.org/yorkshire.htm)
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...cle/123170.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/TNG/article/123170.html)

Zodiac-class
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/libr...icle/70527.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/TNG/article/70527.html)
http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/others/zodiac.htm (http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/others/zodiac.htm)


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: [TD]Roach on December 12, 2005, 07:59:35 PM
only the zodiac i like because it looks like a mirande, others are crap or justt look loki runabouts


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: ewm90 on December 12, 2005, 08:17:15 PM
i think the Zodiac-class desine mite be fack. i like the Challenger-class.


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 13, 2005, 02:41:11 AM
I truly hate with a passion the design with and overhead and under head warp neucels.  i rely like the zodiac aswell though


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Casper on December 13, 2005, 11:56:42 AM
dido


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: LordsofKobol on December 13, 2005, 10:31:42 PM
Zodiac is pretty cool...I still wanna see the promethus added into flops ;)


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 12:48:03 AM
i want to see the defiant stronger.  its too week needs photons or real phasers


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Rhaz on December 14, 2005, 01:41:44 AM
No one seems to realize that all these changes of throwing massive overpowering armraments onto ships unbalances the game. They are doing an amaaizngly close to canon job (in fact I love it...SAVE THAT FED DREADNOUGHT...eww) and if we make the defiant uber, someone will insist the cube needs more firepower, then someone will go "Why don't ships have 12 phaser arrays like in the show" and then someone will inquire as to why all the ships don't have torpedoes, either way its just super silly and we can leave it like it is =].


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 03:34:28 AM
well, why dont they have 12 phaser arrays and topredoes.  just make them do less damage


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Rhaz on December 14, 2005, 04:59:57 AM
The game cannot properly represent the restricted arcs of some ships, and it would be very time consuming to add all the hardpoints and so forth. They game also can't make amends of the limited amount of torpedoes a ship has (Even if they are upwards of 200). As well as the shuttles on ships, they helped in battles. It also cannot account for skilled crews vs unskilled crews. So the game as it is with the fire rates that it has (which if they ship was in combat could likely represent the firing rate of phasers) is just fine. Are you sure you wouldn't rather play Star Fleet Command Three?


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: LordsofKobol on December 14, 2005, 08:32:30 AM
well...no the defiant is horribly underpowered...it just needs stronger hull and sheilds, it's crap right now :P it depends hugely on that weapons disabling thing otherwise it's bantha fodder...

The game is not "so cannon" have you been playing the same game? The romulans can nuke ships from across the map, the Tavara takes down any borg ship 1 on 1...The cube is supposed to be a threat, even more so to the romulans who aren't the strongest power in the galaxy...The Interceptors with their transwarp are deadly, a group of 5+ can beat a warbird, soveriegn, and a negvar...it's a joke to say that, the game doesn't become equalized because there are god ship(s) on every race, it becomes equalized when there are no godly ships...

SFCIII wasn't a great game, plain and simple, besides the horrific fact it was two dimensional...The starbases were disproportionate to the ships, the glows in game were completely unrealistic, and the only real great thing about it was the ability to name a ship whatever you want, and to totally customize the ship systems...

I like the game, however I wouldn't give up fleet ops to play it, it's not nearly as good, and wanting to have more realistic weapons in game is not something to scoff at...the games aren't ment to be like star trek, if they were, a galaxy would take one hit and everything would shut off :P The ships were ment to last a little longer, but there is no reason they can't portray a realistic strength...


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 02:17:31 PM
wow. you know that realy put it in perspective guys.  thanks


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Acidpunk on December 14, 2005, 07:54:10 PM
i agree with the balancing issue but i do agree the defiant is alittle weak but then again it is a small ship so we cant complain

the only thing im annoyed about is the speed of the warbird , sovvy and negvar they are sooo slow ???


and tavara cant beat all cubes B)

fusion cube beats it all the time


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 09:19:05 PM
thats because the fusion cube is actualy 8 cubes :P  


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Acidpunk on December 14, 2005, 09:32:22 PM
thats not why its just the **** sheild removing torp and regeneration lol all cubes should be like that  


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 09:34:24 PM
Personaly, I prefer the comand cube.  The cutting beam rocks! :woot:  :woot:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Casper on December 14, 2005, 09:56:16 PM
i'd have to side with 4 of 11 on that


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 14, 2005, 10:31:05 PM
the ship that can hold its own against most others is the one with 50. damage(klingon, forgot name)


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: LordsofKobol on December 15, 2005, 06:00:36 AM
:lol:

No way, all cubes with sheild killing torps would be too godly :P for that cube's power though, it should be 8 normal cubes not 8 scout cubes :P

The defiant is a small ship yes, but it's also a warship, size doesn't always mean power...it can mean firepower, because obviously a larger ship can store more torpedos, but the defiant was still a tough little ship...I agree that it should have a cloaking device, but it should use somthing like 25-50 special energy...so it would be like able to come out of cloak and disable your weps, so you can't attack (that would be too evil) :lol:


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: teh-plaf on December 15, 2005, 07:53:59 AM
that would be the Cho'naQ class


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: [TD]Roach on December 15, 2005, 08:08:40 AM
yeah the Cho'naQ Class rocks *** and if you have a fleet of it it can bring down a cube easily


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: teh-plaf on December 15, 2005, 08:09:40 AM
be careful to supplement that fleet with more... combat worthy ships, else they'll just all go boom


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: LordsofKobol on December 15, 2005, 08:11:02 AM
You should just send a fleet of 16 of them, set them on condition green, fire them at diffrent times, so you don't waste all the ammo, you fire one at a time at the cube until it dies, that's what I did with them.


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Casper on December 15, 2005, 11:44:26 AM
i'd use some vorchas to draw fire away from them. but i don't really use the klingons.


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: RFO Cairo1 on December 17, 2005, 02:44:16 PM
in my opinion the best way to defet a cube is with many fast small ships like a bop
a shrike the Difiant(of corse) Hideki a bug ship so no and so forth small ships.

a big swarm of all thies little ships


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 17, 2005, 02:47:06 PM
well lets see 16x50 ==800 hit points at once lol. that would take out most ships except for fusions lol


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Acidpunk on December 17, 2005, 03:53:10 PM
the command cube is useless unless you have alot of ships covering it because when it comes under attack it goes boom waaaay to fast

the best thing to do is to use fusion cubes if u must have the command cube mix them up with fusions and scout cubes and some assims and if u want adaptors and use tech assim on the assimilators so u have so much crew drain its amazing but dont use that against borg too many crew:D


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 17, 2005, 03:55:22 PM
i think that 8 scout cubes have more firepower than 1 fusion lol


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: LordsofKobol on December 18, 2005, 05:56:12 AM
no way, sheild killing torps pwn


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Casper on December 18, 2005, 04:35:36 PM
they sure do. ^_^  


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: Admiral Adama on December 18, 2005, 04:39:01 PM
have to shoot em 8 times though!!!!


Title: New Fed Ship Class I Have Not Seen
Post by: RedShirt on December 24, 2005, 07:16:22 PM
I used to use the Klingons all the time.  That is, until an attempt to give the BortaS class another torpedo ended up making it completely unbuildable.  :sweatdrop: