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good for him its not easly to publily say some thing like that.

here, here. brave fella he is.   :omg:  

im a little confused as to why he has choose to reveal this, & why now? :huh:
don't get me wrong, i still have the upmost respect for the guy and always will (he was Sulu after all B) ) but surely after all these years of hiding it, he would want to keep this to himself.

Makes ya wonder ecactly how close Sulu and Chekov were, and just what they were doing on all those late nights spent on the rec deck... :omg:

It's like a disease...

iknow youer ok with homosexulatity nise try on tring to pervoke pepal PD....

uhmm who cares if he is gay?

well i can tell u one thing gay people are the best friends that u could ever have all my friends are gay lol i love then benders

GO SULU,TREK IS GOING GAY LOL

u would not believe how many gay men love star trek its brill B)  

who cares..

i thot it was intresting thats why i posted it.

i found it hilarious! :lol: :lol: SULU IS QUEER! man i'll still be laughing when i die! kudos to him for coming out now though. his timing is good too - star trek has ended so his revelation can't affect any current series!

I always new Sulu acted strange around the male crew members, but I never guessed that he was hitting on Kirk!!! :lol:  

Well i found the young kirk quite gay actually i mean sometimes it looked like he used mascara

Who was I trying to provoke ewm? You? Looks like it worked if that was my aim.

you did not pervoke me. its just that what you sed was so incret and unegucated.

i realy realy hope you wher triying to perovoke me and that not the way you think.

being gay is no more than a illness than eny uther sexula preference.


most pepal men and woman have some gay feelings of difrant dugerys. this is a fact provin by the first sex study by Alfred Kinsey.

He has a spirit of a Starfleet Captain allright...really brave   :)

well i don't know about anyone else, but i dont. & i think that those studies are a waste of time.

i don't know one queer tbh, and i proberley won't.

be for those studys and the sexula revolution that fallod in america pepal looked to religon for gidens in sex and sexula behaver. religon had some strage idea about sex such as masterbasion was an iliness and a sin that cood be cured with caster oil and cashal sex was a sin aginsted god.

so when dr Kinsey did his studdy it was a bom sheal starting the sexula revaution of the 60s in america.


thats a good docrumentry about dr Kinsey if your 17 or under i dont recamend you woch it.

kinsey (http://www.foxsearchlight.com/kinsey/)

yeah?? i still think a study like that is waste of time, what right did this Dr kinsey have to interfere, with other people's religon. sure maybe they were strange to you & me but i aint going to try and change that cos thats down to them.

his sudtys saved lives and helped pepal not feel asmaed of tham selfs for doing nuthing rong.

i recamind you wach the domumintry link above^^^

his gole was not to mess with religon. his gole was to give pepal more information to be abule to make a egucated chose.

i really dont feel like watching something like that if its for over 18s cos i've just had lunch. how did it save lives then?

thare was much more deprsion be for the studdy pepal whood kill thams selfs thinking thay had wher bad pepal for being gay or or evin thinking about sex.

be for the study you whood be shocked at that pepal thot was the troth.

kinsey him self was like 60% gay, at the begining of the movie thare a seen of him as a young man early 20s haveing seshal thots abput a nuther yong man and than cring after words be cuss he thot he had sined.

kinsey confested to that young man he has thot of. that young man he confested to told him it was rong and he must read the bibal and priy for forginess.

you have to see the movie realy to understand.

the movie is not that graphic realy, its is more like a documentry than a sex film. is gole is not to have nodity on it. its gole is to egucate pepal about how dr kinsey realy was.

well thats thier problem, if they are that gullable to believe everything that they are told, then i'm surprised that they lived that long anyway. say its harsh if you want but such is the world we live in.

maybe not the truth but if its their beliefs who is anyone to throw doubt on that.

 :lol:  how can someone be 60% gay. think the word you may be looking for is bisexual. well thats his buissiness.

if someone told you to jump off a cliff to "purify" yourself, would you?

OK, listen, i don't have (nor have ever said that i have) any problem with someone who is gay, lesbian, alien or whatever. i just don't see the need for someone to share this fact with me, thats some info that i really dont need.

1) its seems dumn naw that whood hapin but it did. it was not jus kinsey it was all of america. this is why his sex study was so inportnet.

2) pepal did not have the facts that the time. all thay new was trow wat was told to tham in cherch.

3) thare is realy no such thing as bisexual. most gay pepal have atechton to the opasit sex two thay just perfer the same sex.

4) is that all i know i probly whood.

5) ok.. i just thot you mite wont to know the truth.

like i said who cares if some one came out of the closet? i mean it doesn't effect someone else his/her life or his own. The person who is gay already knew and the people around him well don't but it doesn't even effect their lives.

In Holland nobody cares if you are  married to a guy girl or animal it doesn't effect their lives. It is basically an idea of Go hahead with your life aslong as you don't push it in my face.

That whole religeon is just nonesence because only in Somewhat less democratic countries do they not accept gay lesbian or bisexuals. For religion well same thing here in holland there is even a islamic gay bar so only the very conservative practitioners condemn it but that is what they believe and if that gay person believes that it is wrong aswell so would you shout no act your gay life as it is. BEcause what gives the someone the right to nullify a religion because it isn't what you practice.

It is basically an idea of Go hahead with your life aslong as you don't push it in my face.

nicely said Roach, now get ur *** here cos i got a spliff for u to roach!

they could then choose whether or not to believe it.

dude, anyone who will freely have sex with either gender, is bisexual, regardless of whether or not they have a so called "preference".

 :omg:  now thats scary. :blink:

i wasn't talking about the thread, i was talking about people who randomly announce they are gay, or whatever they are.

well roach im america whare i live being gay is vowed by somepepal as being a degenerate or freek. thats why it is a big deel.

something is only a big deal as you make it. sulu comes out and now this is topic is going haywire!!

2) that did not have chose all thay know was what thay her from roomers or the cherch thare wher no FACTS.

3) that whood make 90% of gay pepal bisexual. most i can say gay pepal have had sex with a miber of the opasit ginder at one time.

4) pepal only can know what thay have learned.

5) haw are you to mind a mate how shares your vows unless you share your vows with tham?

Sorry, ewm, but I'm with Ryan on this one.  Mainly because what you said above could be considered an insult to my religeon...  First, even connecting some of those antiquated extemist befliefs (the first one and the second one) with the Bible (which supprorts them in no way, shape or form) in an AFFRONT to Christianity.  Protaying it's views as irrelevent is also not a wise choise.  And it also implies that I, as a Christian, share those beleifs.  I have nothing against gays at all, exept that I certainly don't wanna be one.  I do however, believe in #3, but that is my own opinion, and, quite frankly, is none of your buisness.

I'll start out by making this point:  Kinsey only asked those who felt comfortable revealing there sex lives.  How many people (esspecially in those days) would feel comfortable revealing there sex lives?  Not many!!!  So, using this logic, one can see that Kinsey's study was in no way an accurate portayal of the nataion's true sexual habits.
 

i dont evin know what religon you are [=!=]RedShirt.

as i sed be for kinsey is not about saying religons are bad it was about showing thares a nuther way.

when you beleev in some thing so much that you cant bring your self to quetion it you are at the pont of no retern.

how true u have made a good point now lets stop this discussion before i scream like the queen i am  :blush:  

ashal if i remiber crectly kinsey did hate religon. but that aside he had a realy good pont.

side note: i dont hate religon.

I never said that you did, you just have to be careful what you say, and how.  And if you still don't know (given I said it explicitly in my post) mabye your the one too far gone.


I simply pointed out that Kinsey's survey is an unrelyable source.  I never said that the movie emphasised that religeon is bad.


That ones a laugh!  :lol:
I think you're trying to council me in my own Religeon, which you have already implied that you don't understand!  If you want to council me, read the Bible first.
 

ok lets stop this discussion ok im gay and i respect his courage for "boldly going where so many men have gone before" this is a mod site not a sexual preferense discussion now lets get on with it and have sex with whom ever u like i know i do lol :lol:  

Kinsey did have a point, although one he made with inadequite information.  And I never said you hated Religeon, only that you don't uderstand it.

1) i will not say hate full thing. but i will exsperss my vows.

2) the movie showed that religon had bad vows about sex not that religon was bad.

3) i have read the bibal and i do understand religon i was brot up as a cherch going apiscopalian. later in life i desited that it was not for me.

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when i say he had a good pon i dont meen about hating religon i meen about his resherch on sex.

SHUT UP!!! WE ARE ONLY HUMAN ITS NOT LIKE WE ARE HAVING SEX WITH DIFFERENT SPECIES

Okay, now that (I think) we understand each other, lets end this pointless (at least, it has become pointless) topic and move on to greener pastures, before the admins have to do it for us.

GOD LETS TALK STAR TREK

some do, lol.

i cood tell you about things i have read but thay are not aperopit for this forum.

ok i know others do and u never know if there are aliens out there that we can do it with people may do anyway lets all stop now  

Unfortunately, I'm not an admin, but I can pretend.

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what if we have it moved to small tolk insted?

i wouldn't partcipate in it

What if we have it CLOSED???

Finally closed because i thought i was the only one who thought the whole gay issue is a bit blown up.  I mean gay... WOW that is just as interesting as someone telling he or she is straight. my uncle is gay so what?


That was my only point i was trying to say  

Exactly!  Now, let's all close this topic.

i agree this needs to be closed

who wants to go to a gay bar??? a gay bar! i'm gonna take you all to a gay bar!!! a gay bar!! we're gonna have ourselves a gay old time!! a gay time!!! lets go to a gay bar and pick up a gay boy!! a gay boy!!! yeah yeah baby a gay boy!! boom boom basil brush!!!

Hi guys,
I'm talking about homosexuality on a startrek forum.  

crazy innit! :lol: never mind, if in doubt, turn to seven of nine. or ezri dax! deanna troi and her nipples!! :lol:  

i gess some one had to make a joke out of this. some things are not a joke.

Good for Sulu. Really, couldn't be happier. But don't bash or bug him about it, its his personal choice and you should all respect it. Besides, who dare mock the great Captain Sulu? if kirk said he was gay, you'd all stfu pretty darned fast...

no, I'd still mock you all for making a big deal about it on a forum about an actor that was famous on television 30 odd years ago.

OK THATS ENOUGH dont take the **** out of gay people im one myself and i take offence by that comment OPTEC DOCA STOP THIS THREAD NOW

you take this all rong. so much hostilaty here on this forum.

i thot it was a good thing to show thare is a gay man on star trek. i thot i cood use it to make pepal more exspeting of gay pepal. and maby help some one how mite be a closet gay person fell ok about him or her self and come out. you dont make pepal exseting of gay pepal by hinding the ishow.

what comint are you upset about admiral max?

 

but then again some people don't see it your way, i find it funny but then again I've had that kind of upbringing you can't change the world ewm, with people like me the more propaganda you shove under my nose the more i reject it, making it awaer to people like us just makes them a nerw target for crude jokes etc, I'm the kind of person who would do that and apparenlty so are a lot of members on the forum (I look in the general direction of frodo, volume, cts, preator proberley although not sure Black barron) we all shear the same sort of views and opinions and they are ours if we wish to mock homosexuality thats our choice, thats why we have freedom of speech although politicly correct goverments are clamping down on it.

Mabye all the hostillity is because this is a Star Trek forum, not a political one.  :lol:  

humm i have suggested that in the past but was told to shut up... o well shut up red shirt :P

Then we might as well all move here (http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/index.php).   ;)

or here (http://www.whistlestopper.com/).

or here (http://www.itsallpolitics.com/).

lol or start the political star trek armada 2 gaming forum :S

Too late.  ewm beat us to it.  :P   j/k

lol

ewm u seem to love making a class m planet out of a molehill!! lets recap - sulu is gay, hooray!! i couldn't give a $hit! its his life, he can do whatever he wants but because he's a celebrity due to star trek it had to be in the news naturally. i'm amazed at the direction this little topic has gone in! due to u know who! ;) :lol:

now - admiril max - ur gay too! i know a good doctor who can cure you for under £999!! :lol: people i am british, it is in my nature, my genetic make up to take the **** out of everything haha! i mean no disrespect, the fact ur a homo wouldn't stop me from...i dunno...saving ur life and all that bollocks, but i wouldn't start screaming in ur face "haha ur diseased! ur gay! haha homo homo!" and that applys to everybody. i mean i wouldn't call a ****** a ******, even tho i did to a black friend once and he wasn't pleased but i meant it all in a sense of humour. like eufnoc says - freedom of speech etc.

ok this topic can be closed now :D

lol I'm british too maybe thats why i think like i do lol

its a funny old life we live innit eufnoc!!

aye that it is, but we should automaticly blame bush for it thoguh ;)

of course, i blame bush because green day told me to :lol:

Ya, when you combine Green Day, Eminem, and the Dixie Chicks, who can't blame Bush?  :lol:  

not only that coz sulu's gay its caused 2000 troops to die in iraq...

u eejit! u mentioned i**q! *sits back and waits for a certain political loving person to kick off*

lmao who would that be? *glares at optec thinking its him  :pinch:  

OH MY GOD!!! SULU DID THAT??? :omg:  *grabs AK-47 from his coat closet*

SULU MUST PAAAAAY!!!  :angry:

 :lol:  

lol!! btw i'm stealing your "God, The Devil & Me - Wait I'm God" sig for my msn name :lol:

hehe np

in ur opinion who was the best helms men in all th star trek series? i liked chekov n sulu but data is a close 3rd

You just did that in photoshop, didn't you?  :lol:  

lol no paint, i removed it as it was breeching rules and i would say Data or paris i neverliked tos tbh

Too late.  I saved it to my computer.  :P


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i am not triying to chage the word. just triying to my small part to egucate pepal.

this is not propaganda this is facts.

mock homosexuality is homofobic behaver. is aginsted the law in america wich has the most freedom of spech of ney contry. and for FO wich vilates:

No flaming
No Member(s) or Crew Member(s) is allowed to engage in public personal attacks, on any other Member(s) or Crew Member(s). Such attacks are defined as personal, racial, ethnic or gender based insults, slurs or derisive comments... Criticize ideas, not people!
No trolling
Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up... Substance is the key to not being labeled a troll!

and is just rong.

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you guy make me sick! dont you have eny repect for uthers? you can scow up and spam eny uther thead you wont and probly will but leve this one alone!

i find it a bit stupid that you all are in Awe just that someone said 3 words. I am gay.  What is the big deal in that?

What if someone said i am BI, then there wouldn't be such commontion about the whole thing. i find this thread becomming a bit pointless. Now Sulu is gay that is one thing..... WooptyDoo for the people that think that it makes Sulu Even greater then before.

GAy or not who cares?  I find it funny that some get very personal about it even if it doesn't effect them any bit.  if sulu is gay or not, i don't see how it would effect your personal life.

and ewm education is one thing... forcing it through someones throat is anothing thing.

just be cuss you dont understand te pont of this thread roach duss not meen uther pepal will not to.

i am not foring eny one haw can i dont have eny contole over you or eny one els.

just let this thread die it ben destoryed.

What is the point then because cleairly you haven't tought it well to us then.

because i see Gay as not more or less special then straight or bisexual.  

well i will exspene this over pm toy you if you like. pleace let this tread die.

not every one shares your vows over gay peal tho. Holland is realy good at under standing what the word gay means. where i come from and in uther contrys thare is lake of egication over what gay means.

you can all **** urselves except for u ewm how dare u say that about people we are human  

Roach is totally right, what is so special about this? Hes gay boo ******* hoo :hmmm:  

we are all entitled to our views and we have all expressed our views if you don't like them its tuff tities its what freedom of speech is for and theres nothing you can do about it tbh, you don't like them then thats fine with me.

fromdom of speech duss not apliy here this is a privit forum. forum rules and the forum admins will is the law. we are all guests in the FO teams forum.

everyone is entitled to their views ewm, and for the record can we PLEASE lock this thread thats gotten way out of hand?

i agree with locking it at this pont it has ben distroyed.

what i ment by what i sed. is it is up to the FO team what can and will be sed on THARE FORUM.

And its up to you to keep the smalltalk topics friendly and peaceful. More of this destructive arguing and I think we might lose a forum section.

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