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any one seen or heard about the plane crash in Toronto? i can't find much if anything on the net as of present, leave it an hour and you will, in the mean time turn to a news channel for more info.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/...h.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/02/toronto.crash.ap/index.html)

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Lots of smoke, lots of fire but noone dead, only some injured.

That's what we call "Glück im Unglück", dunno if that exists in English.
It means having luck in an unlucky situation.

As long as it was mostly french on board.

Huh? :huh:  

it was the paris to toronto, hes saying he hopes that the people on the plane where mostly french, and yeah i agree, i don't mind the candians, the french are just plain ungreatful arseholes who can't win a war to save there life

for the record, "glück im unglück" is "blessing in disguise" in english  :)  

I am truely grateful that no one was seriously hurt. That said, I truely enjoyed watching a french airplane burn to the ground. 'Nuff said.

U're all f***ed up, how can u even say that  :mellow:  

I hope it was mostly french-canadians in there. f*** THE POLICE! N' Quebec.

Amen

your all crazy (not doca and barron) it aint good carma to laugh at oyhers misfortune or get enjoyment fromm it (btw woot 1000 posts!!!!! woot)

come on pepal we are alise with frace and canida what did canida ever do to you?

I really can't understand all that hatred... You surely have serious problems.

 :o  :huh:  :mellow:  :(  

Like your sig says Cdr, trust your feelings. Whenever I see some Frog government official bloviating on TV talking about Grande France and all that crap, I feel like they are just a sad imitation of an actual global power, i.e. the US, and the bile rises in my throat. The way they try to dictate socialist policy to our real allies in Eastern Europe, Britain, the Levant (Israel, Lebanon, etc.) is just pathetic.

agree with you here, even though i don't trust the french either never wish this upon anyone.

yeah but even if they weren't our allies ( which the french like to act) these people were just innocents inside a plane.

to all you thinking this is good: your sick :mad:  :yucky:  :angry:  

Trust your feelings! <= Goes only for Jedi, not for Sith. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

It's too late, for me son :D

Of course those french are probably innocent, but none of them died, so I would enjoy watching their incompetant pilots in the debriefing.

Same can be said for your  incompetant intelligence for the 9/11 tragedy yet noone laughed......

Well, the problem with that plane accident was:

The airport was closed due to bad weather, meaning it would have been very dangerous for planes to land.

They then opened the airport again, which must have led to the assumption, that the weather was ok again. As it seems, it wasn't. The Air France machine was the first to land after the airport was opened again... the rest is history.

Could have happened to any other plane.
However, the planes crew and the design of the aircraft were good enough, to get all 309 people out of the plane before it caught fire. That was good work.

And the airport's fire crews were well organized as well. The first fire vehicles arrived just 1 minute after the accident.

Is this going to be political thread Nr 3?

@coolhandab

i wish no ill will on the candians just the french, i really dislike the french, they are just a pin in the arse, i agree with what another member said (can't be asked to scroll up) when he said they are a imatation, they are to big headed, and to cocky but when push comes to shove they can't do jack. They are willing to knock anything that ain't theres but don't like it back, they try to boost there milatary strength, please a gang of la could proberley take them out...

Their a sorry excuse for a world power.

... no comment. Still can't understand those attitudes. There is only one Earth and we all have to share it.

PS: The Invasion of France in WWII, the Battle of Verdun WWI ... both were also powered by similar attitudes the Germans had concerning the French.

Thank God that is over. Arch enemies became friends...
Tolerance is a very good idea.

but then again so is anialation ;)

yeah it would if you could spell it :P  

heh my spelling is as bad as ewms lol

Impossible.

OK I agree with Roach, we should try to not antagonize anyone by making this a "political thread #3."  I am anxiously awaiting the post-crash investigation of course, I'm really interested if this was human error, mechanical fault, or just bad luck.

French pilots passing half the runway up before they touch down, or french electronic equipment not telling the pilots they did so, hmmm.

from what i haerd he landed properly he got a micro berst that cosed the polet to loss controle come smashed drawn and hidro plane in to the dich.

the mistake lies with the pilot if you asked me he disted to land dering a red alert that meens chace of liting wich mite have hit the plane.

it was a bad sichation evin american pilolets can not conrole the wether. frich conadein american it cood had hapined to eny one.

Sure ewm.

but that is trow we do have more detecters than both fanecs and canida.
but what thay are saying hapined to this air craft was so qick evin if thay had had those detecters thy probly whood not be abule to do much it hapined so fast.

thay are thining ether a sudin micro berst or a linting bolt hit it or both.

the air bus 340 wich was the tipe of plane it was, is potected aginsted liting and micro bersts. a big anuff liting bolt or micro berst can nigate the saftly systoms wich is probly what hapind.

air bus 380 is the bigest comershal plane in servise to day. so that pusts the size of the air bus 340 in perspective.

A lightning bolt wouldn't have done anything but burned some paint...

a big anuff one whood have costed pawer to go out and plans systoms to reset.

the pasingers sed that the plans pawer sudinaly whent off be for a sundin drop cosing the plane to smack in to the tar-mack exsivly.

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CBC News CA

No fatalities in Toronto airplane fire
Last Updated Tue, 02 Aug 2005 22:54:41 EDT
CBC News
All 309 people aboard a jet that overshot a runway and burst into flames at Pearson International Airport Tuesday survived the ordeal, according to fire officials on the scene.

There were 14 minor injuries, however.

 
 
One passenger aboard the Air France Airbus A340, Roel Bramar, told CBC News that he saw lightning just as the plane landed in a torrential downpour at about 3:50 p.m.

"I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible," said Bramar, who was not injured and managed to scramble off the plane by means of an emergency chute. He was the second person off the plane, he said.


RELATED STORY: Everyone was 'running like crazy': passenger

Flight 358 from Paris had been scheduled to arrive at Toronto at 3:35 p.m. EDT. Something went badly wrong, and the plane overshot its intended runway by about 200 metres.

The plane skidded off Runway 24 Left, an east-west runway laid out parallel to one of Toronto's busiest roads, Highway 401. It ended up in the Etobicoke Creek ravine, a small valley at the far west end of the airport, the aircraft's fuselage tipped down and its tail in the air.

"We had a **** of a roller-coaster going down the ravine," Bramar said. "All I could think of was 'Get off!'"

Emergency crews were still on the scene by early evening.

While cleanup efforts continued and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada prepared to begin its investigation, all incoming flights were being rerouted to Ottawa's airport.

 
Rescue crews trying to extinguish the flames.  

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YOUR REACTION: Letters about the accident

The incident happened as most operations at the airport were grounded because of severe thunderstorms in the area.

At mid-afternoon Tuesday, a spokesperson with the Greater Toronto Airports Authority said lightning was causing technical problems with the airport's lightning-detection system. All aircraft were grounded for safety reasons as a result, largely to protect crews working on the ground.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...lane050802.html (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/08/02/pearson-plane050802.html)

looks like the plane overshot its intended runway by about 200 metres. i gess you wher right PD but thare still a quetion about the liteing bolt.