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Tell me about it.  You know what the real problem with videogame violence when it comes to children - the parents themselves!!!  I wouldn't be surprised if some if not all of the members of that group have actually bought games for their kids.  Must have been their periods or PMS. :lol:  

Eufnoc, it's just a fake:

http://a.parsons.edu/~dyoo/2002-3/interactivity/mavav/ (http://a.parsons.edu/~dyoo/2002-3/interactivity/mavav/)

someone will probably make it real now :mad:  

lol thanks paris

If they do become real, I would be most outraged.  It's the parents' fault to begin with, and they should be punishing themselves.

for many of these problems i blame rockstar(evil, evil company almost as bad as microsoft...) ... some games are just stupid BUT unless someone was already prone to violence then i doubt serverly that a game would make then go and kill people, i play games that are considered violent but i don't kill people... and i doubt that anti video game fanatics (there is no other word for them) have played said games and therefore are just jumping on the band wagon (and yes i do realize that i am probably preaching to the choir  :) )

Good point.  I'll keep that in mind.  

Video games don't make people violent, lag does.

lol, i remember a quote from a chat room i go in,

" you can't blame videogames for violence, its like blaming spoons for fat people"

loool. :D

Hehe, yep. I think Eufnoc's quote is right.
On the other hand we do also blame drugs for making people addicted, even if it was their choice in the beginning if they wanted to take them or not..
After all the whole "Baaad computer games" story is just a "fashion" at the moment. they will calm down sonner or later :) I don't think the gamind industry, being quite important at the moment, would let themselves get into hurry cause of some little serial killers.
Sounds harsh, but i think thats reality.
Sex sells, violence sells.. its a problem of mankind, not of the game industry

well now we would have to start a very ethic discussion which can not be answered clearly.. ah yep, a difficult topic  :blush:  

its a reacering agrumant that gose ferther back be for vido games.

movies and comic books wher balmed for crupting kids at one pont.

evin the telaphone was called a cruption of society.

i sher evin when the weel came out pepal thot it whood be used for pervted or degenerate perpuses.

i blame the amish!!!

but in all fare ness thare is a problom called viedo game Addiction it is a real problom the psychology world is doing research on it and meny difrant treetmants and programs are being stated to help deel with it.

but on the uther hand when have you ever seen a rating on beer like you seen on veido games? veido games are a problom but thay dont kill pepal.

http://www.theparentreport.com/resources/a...ulture/130.html (http://www.theparentreport.com/resources/ages/preteen/kids_culture/130.html)

lol this game has an pleasure volume of 60%

I'm a video game addict, and i play some of the bloodiest, most gut wrenching, "Evil" games that people say are a corrupting influence. now, true i might spend about 40-50 hours a week on my computer but that just means i wouldn't have time to go around killing people even if i did have the desire to do so. which i don't. and that seems to contradict what politicians and anti-violence fanatics are preaching. if you don't want you kids to play violent games, then actually go out and watch them when they're shopping. and don’t try to ban everything that you find distasteful, that just isn’t anyones call to make.

Ya I know, preaching to the choir. I’ll stop now

without games like unreal tournament there would be nothing to relieve stress. the people who go out and murder a few people after playing a game are obviously just nutters, there was a killer inside them before they started playing the game  :wacko: . nowadays life is quite violent, so why not ban people from living if they grow up in a tough neighbourhood :mad: .


violent video games DON'T make people violent, its the people who try to ban them that do :shifty:  

in the hyer case video game adition can scrow up your life. it coses you to loos intrests in a soshal life, you will have less fisacal ativaty, you will be late to obligations you will have, makes it hard to hold a job or get good grades in scool.

vedio game adiction i was told can all so bring on depretion exacerbates the problem.

vido games are a good thing thay can inpove moder futions, and hand eye cordination but in modration.

They are a good way to relieve stress, and I can say by experience that they do nicely in that respect.

As I've also said before, parents are to blame.

its not about blam or hows folt it is. all i am saying is evry thing in modration.

well its the same as alcahol, if you don't have enoug self control to stop addiction, don't drink it, if you ain't got enough self control to stop VG addiction, don't play them ;)

As William "Fatner" I mean Shatner said, "get a life."  I'm saying this in terms of those who play well beyond moderation.  One could eventually become looney and believe in the stuff in games.

:omg: I'll believe that when i see it.
I'm fine  B)

it's these guys you gotta lookout for
:guns:   :lol:   :badgrin:  :shuriken:  

Agreed.  That's why there are police officers in real life.