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Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: T-Man on July 07, 2005, 12:07:20 PM It is my sad duty to report a series of bomb explosions have happened in London today. Current news reports state that explosions occured in Trains and Buses throughout the city. 47 deaths reported so far. Al Quieda belived to be the cause.
If anyone here knows anyone who works in London, you may wish to ring them or the authorities for information. Here are a few links to news sites so people can keep up to date: http://www.sky.com/skynews/home (http://www.sky.com/skynews/home) http://news.bbc.co.uk/ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/) http://www.channel4.com/news/ (http://www.channel4.com/news/) Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 07, 2005, 12:15:53 PM As far as I know, Al Queida is reportably responcible. And it happened when people got to work via subway, buses :(
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -nBk|TheOne- on July 07, 2005, 12:42:20 PM In germany they show it on tv permanetely...what can i say... :unsure: thats cruel fanatism. but i won´t fall into hate and blindness!
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 07, 2005, 01:50:51 PM cood it be the IRA thay have ben geting along for a wile?
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: [TD]Roach on July 07, 2005, 02:11:25 PM the ira? that is like saying that the french bombed it because they couldn't hodl the 2012 olympic games. the IRA attacts only in north ireland
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Cpt Ryan on July 07, 2005, 02:14:55 PM not sure, this seems very professionally done. at first it was said that there were just some power surges on the london underground. then reports of buses blowing up as well came flooding in.
@roach actually no they've been attacking the british for years Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 07, 2005, 02:17:46 PM roach the ira attack london mostly, and no its not the ira, they are a thron in our side but not today, our ceasefire still stands, and plus alq have ammited it.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Cpt Ryan on July 07, 2005, 03:21:15 PM last count on the news was 40 people have died, may they RIP :cry:
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: CDPelectro on July 07, 2005, 03:24:56 PM Yeah good point Euf....but if I was al quaida, and something went wrong in the world, I'd be the first to admit to it! Even if I wasn't responsible. :ph34r:
Methinks they're still the ones responsible. It couldn't have been the IRA, USA, or anyone else with a 3-letter abbreviation ;) My condolences to Western Europe nonetheless. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 07, 2005, 06:51:43 PM Quote last count on the news was 40 people have died, may they RIP :cry: i herd 37 but it mite rech 40 or hier it has ben climing. as of naw i have herd 4 devises wher used to blow up the tran syton in london known as the toob. the place wher the deives wher detanted was the most hevaly tavaled part of the toob. the atacts do seem to be tarist posabule el-kida. thay wher well caryed out to kill as meny pepal as posabule. thanks to the skilled britesh emerginsy servses things on the grawnd are going smoothly. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: hypercube on July 07, 2005, 11:09:32 PM i don't know why theese terrorists always attack the innocent-ones :(
what did the ordinary people ever do to them? terrorism sucks! Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 07, 2005, 11:55:40 PM well what did the goverment or army do to them first, ewm save it for the pol thread before you start it was hyperthetecal. i would like to say our emerigence services have done a wounderful job in keeping calm and handerling the situation.
I would like to quote a bbc reporter aswell "the terroists job is to do that, to terroize, except the brief moments when the bomb had gone off, they have not terroized, the hospitals where redey, the emerigencie services where redey, and the britsh stay calm, people are walking home now, no histeria, no panic, walking home trying to find normalty again" he is right, the people in the blast very quickly calmed down, saught help and did not over react, people are acting normaly now, a little shocked and saddend yes but mostly normal. also i find it very strange where they blow up the bus up, they blow the bus right next to a meeting of doctors and parmedics (the building next to it) so the instant it blow there was doctors and paramedics on the scene, honestly you want to cause as much death as possible? then don't explode a bomb when theres the royal nation doctos assocation next door! Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Legacy on July 08, 2005, 12:31:16 AM Man, spreads like a plague doesn't it? A news report just came in, the death toll is at 33 now. But hey, that the signs of the time we're living in.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 08, 2005, 12:43:38 AM aye unfortunly
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 08, 2005, 02:28:42 AM Now the brits are forced to a small 9/11 of their own, poor souls.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 08, 2005, 02:39:20 AM Quote well what did the goverment or army do to them first, ewm save it for the pol thread before you start it was hyperthetecal. i would like to say our emerigence services have done a wounderful job in keeping calm and handerling the situation. i did not add polatics in to this i parifrased what i sed from the BBC world new.I would like to quote a bbc reporter aswell "the terroists job is to do that, to terroize, except the brief moments when the bomb had gone off, they have not terroized, the hospitals where redey, the emerigencie services where redey, and the britsh stay calm, people are walking home now, no histeria, no panic, walking home trying to find normalty again" he is right, the people in the blast very quickly calmed down, saught help and did not over react, people are acting normaly now, a little shocked and saddend yes but mostly normal. also i find it very strange where they blow up the bus up, they blow the bus right next to a meeting of doctors and parmedics (the building next to it) so the instant it blow there was doctors and paramedics on the scene, honestly you want to cause as much death as possible? then don't explode a bomb when theres the royal nation doctos assocation next door! it is sad that we faces taisom to day it is brutal and bludy stuff i wish we did not have to face it. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 08, 2005, 03:10:39 AM Thats what our governments are trying to do, end the terrorism.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 08, 2005, 03:14:51 AM what do you mean, made to face our own 9/11? we have been facing terror attacks from when american was in nappy's eg look at the 5 november (16 hundreads i think) when traitors tried to kill the king and parliement! look at the on going troubles with the IRA we have, look at our history defiant, we have had a war on terror before america was even around.
and i was saying beofre you dead as i was expecting it in a reply to my post. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 08, 2005, 03:32:22 AM Quote Thats what our governments are trying to do, end the terrorism. tarisom is to big for us to stop it all its to wide sprid.al-quida is one out of hundres of dirant tairsom orgs. some tarisom organsations are aliyed with us or dont bother us and we dont bother tham. the thing with tarisom you need to understan tarisom is a word you cant kill the word. we can kill groops that do tarisom but when one is stoped a nuther takes thare place. as soon as we kill one a new one is started some wher elss. we can end tarisom we can reduse it to magnagbule levals what ever thay mite be. to coniuwe this pleace post in in the poalital thred than you PD or how ever wont to conuwe this thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eufnoc you are in lodon arnt you? was thare eny one you know in the atack? i hope not... Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 08, 2005, 06:46:09 AM I think eufnoc took that the wrong way, I never said you haven't faced terrorism before, but then again, neither has he US. Of course the IRA hasen't done something this big to my knowledge.
Guess I should respond to ewms hipicritical post about keeping it in the political thread, good god man, all I say is our governments are trying to stop it and you just break out and say a ton of sh*t. Don't you dare continue on this particular thread, or you lose any shred of respect I may still have for you. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 08, 2005, 12:12:55 PM PREATOR DEFIANT
i am sary to here that. Eufnoc this has got to suck for the uk thay win the olipics one day a mager upper the next day thay have a big bombing mager dawner. you giys must be going thos a roler coster ride of emotions. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: coolhandab on July 08, 2005, 11:15:59 PM All I have to say about this sad episode is all the surveillance cameras and nanny-state government didn't save innocent Londoners from being butchered. Perhaps time to clean out the mosques up north?
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 08, 2005, 11:30:31 PM Quote I think eufnoc took that the wrong way, I never said you haven't faced terrorism before, but then again, neither has he US. Of course the IRA hasen't done something this big to my knowledge. first no i am not in london, near it though, and also no i did not know anyoneGuess I should respond to ewms hipicritical post about keeping it in the political thread, good god man, all I say is our governments are trying to stop it and you just break out and say a ton of sh*t. Don't you dare continue on this particular thread, or you lose any shred of respect I may still have for you. also this was the biggest attack on uk soil to date but we have had worse attacks (ie more damage less deaths, single death causing huge amount of fear, hatred and anger (ie when they killed a member of the Royal family) etc) Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 08, 2005, 11:32:49 PM Quote All I have to say about this sad episode is all the surveillance cameras and nanny-state government didn't save innocent Londoners from being butchered. Perhaps time to clean out the mosques up north? aye i agree with you, and nanny state i do not understand this, we where however on Orange alert before the first attack (just under red) last month we where on red alert apparently. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: coolhandab on July 09, 2005, 01:20:13 AM By nanny state I mean the sad amount of official regulations and restrictions on the activities of private citizens. Not nearly as bad as say France or Germany to be sure, but it seems like the UK has fallen quite a few notches on the liberty belt since our political entities seperated 230 years ago
BTW, you guys have color coded terrorist alerts too!?!? Did we inherit this gem from you or you from us? I think we're on mostly yellow, but some orange right now, or some BS like that. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 09, 2005, 02:10:55 AM maby the bush adminastration came up with colored alerts.
home land sucraty chart (http://www.dhs.gov/Editorial/images/150-hsas.gif) and we started site like http://www.ready.gov/ (http://www.ready.gov/) to help pepal be scard not to mich your more likely to die in a air place asadent than a tarist atack. thare have be quetions in the past is pepal in the goverment with out nameing names have rased it with out thare being a risk. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 09, 2005, 03:58:28 PM Quote Not nearly as bad as say France or Germany to be sure I feel quite comfortable with it. ;) Thank you. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: coolhandab on July 09, 2005, 09:38:06 PM Quote I feel quite comfortable with it. ;) Thank you. You're comfortable with the highest unemployment since the 1920s and a large percentage of your population that is unassimilated, hostile to western ideals, and actively supporting arabic-only worship and public education? You're an awfully sanguine person, sir. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 09, 2005, 10:24:24 PM Quote You're comfortable with the highest unemployment since the 1920s and a large percentage of your population that is unassimilated, hostile to western ideals, and actively supporting arabic-only worship and public education? You're an awfully sanguine person, sir. You should live here first before you judge the situation.Also, you should keep in mind that we had to integrate a former socialist country. And concerning that anti-western problem: We understand ourselves as a multi-cultural country. The attempt to cope with those problems is part of that. There might be problems, but the majority is pretty well integrated and really likes our or better their country. And I was talking about what I quoted, that is the situation of personal freedom for the individual. And from my point of view, the system is in order as it is. I would be more afraid of County Sherriffs in the US arresting people for saying something wrong than of any German policeman. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 09, 2005, 11:23:02 PM Seems funny to me what bad things u have to say about other countries, when in yours racism is still very much present, there are more fat people in US than anywhere else in the world, your leaders are idiots, you play policeman of the world,....
Just plizz settle your own problems b4 u start commenting on other country ones. If u really think that u help countries to protect liberty than u r an even bigger fool I already think u are. US helped NOONE if there wasnt any economic or strategic gain for them. In WW2 u only send troops when u actually realized that your allies might actually loose the war, so u might not get payed for the shipments u send them. Also b4 u critisize Germany and other "old European" countries as u called them remember that in WW2 they ALL were ALMOST LEVELED to the ground, all industry destroyed, countries in great debt,... The last war that was fought on your soil was the civil war, I suspect that is why u are so eager to go to war in other countries, people have simply forgot how it feels, noone remebers it and the only see it on TV. Hell if we help them and get some oil in return why the hell shouldnt we go to war, maybe Holywood will even make a movie about it in some years, so we can all see again how our glorious armies destroyed the enemy who is 50 years behind us in tech and is outnumbered 20:1. And how we didnt even have to engage them just slaughter them with missiles from where they couldnt hurt us, and when they retreated in civil areas we simply bombed there, a hospital destroyed here and there, who cares right? (in this I also replied for the statements in politic thread US sends their brave sons and daughters to fight for us, and how they die and blablablalbla) PS: That remark that your leaders are idiots is strickly of personal nature and nothing has been proven to proven my convictions ;) Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: hypercube on July 09, 2005, 11:40:28 PM good reply baron
oh, and about integrating a socialist country, Alaska right? and that was really a great achievement for u huh? like 3 people for a square mile. Besides being socialist isn't neccesarilly a bad thing, the hollywood and governament has just made it look bad, so don't talk about things that you know nothing about. And furthermore, life in most european countries is SO MUCH BETTER than in US (according to unemployment, homelles, health, rasism and other statistics) So you should start learning from other countries, instead of looking down on them. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 10, 2005, 12:51:31 AM Don't mix up the posts. ;)
coolhandab => the US guy me => the German guy who likes his country and thinks there are less problems than everyone says :) The socialist country I meant was East Germany (aka DDR = GDR). And the problem with the socialism in that case is the way the economy was handled. And the fact that neither the infrastructure nor the economy itself was in good condition. Masses of money went into increasing the standards in East Germany. In fact, you still get lower wages in East Germany today. The process is not over. There still is the "solidarity tax" which is meant to help with that. And that's one of the reasons for the weak economy now and the high unemployment rate. But still, it's better to have a unified Germany after all. So we have to accept the problems and work further on solving them. I mostly agree with Baron, although I wouldn't use such a drastic language. I'm more for diplomacy... an optimistic person. Concerning that, coolhandab was right. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 10, 2005, 01:24:26 AM Quote Seems funny to me what bad things u have to say about other countries, when in yours racism is still very much present, there are more fat people in US than anywhere else in the world, your leaders are idiots, you play policeman of the world,.... i think are condemnation of the usa is a bit unfare i do aree that awer leader are not doing the right things naw, naw being the key word. the usa was an isolationist contry at the time gorg washington told the american pepal dont get invoved in over seas conflicts and america at the time did not know to much about eurip at the time or had to much invested, thats not to say thay did not care. Just plizz settle your own problems b4 u start commenting on other country ones. If u really think that u help countries to protect liberty than u r an even bigger fool I already think u are. US helped NOONE if there wasnt any economic or strategic gain for them. In WW2 u only send troops when u actually realized that your allies might actually loose the war, so u might not get payed for the shipments u send them. Also b4 u critisize Germany and other "old European" countries as u called them remember that in WW2 they ALL were ALMOST LEVELED to the ground, all industry destroyed, countries in great debt,... The last war that was fought on your soil was the civil war, I suspect that is why u are so eager to go to war in other countries, people have simply forgot how it feels, noone remebers it and the only see it on TV. Hell if we help them and get some oil in return why the hell shouldnt we go to war, maybe Holywood will even make a movie about it in some years, so we can all see again how our glorious armies destroyed the enemy who is 50 years behind us in tech and is outnumbered 20:1. And how we didnt even have to engage them just slaughter them with missiles from where they couldnt hurt us, and when they retreated in civil areas we simply bombed there, a hospital destroyed here and there, who cares right? (in this I also replied for the statements in politic thread US sends their brave sons and daughters to fight for us, and how they die and blablablalbla) PS: That remark that your leaders are idiots is strickly of personal nature and nothing has been proven to proven my convictions ;) it was dimacrat presadent F.D.R. that did not see it this way. with the atack on the peal harber was abule to get a nuff suport for war on the axes pawers. and as for naw bush duss not repersint the vowes of all the pepal in america. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i cant emagin a atack like this on metro in dc i depind on my train sytom for evry thing. have it out must hert business. but i am haping to here the uks econamy did not take a huge dip like the usas did after 911. the usa enter a resetion that took us a good year at lest to clime out of. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 10, 2005, 02:09:39 AM Every american who has gone to other countries or to europe that i've met says we have alot more opportunities here, and freedoms, then anywhere else. Rather live here where I can get a job then some place where jobs are few and the economy is going downhill.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 10, 2005, 09:25:10 AM Quote Don't mix up the posts. wink.gif coolhandab => the US guy me => the German guy who likes his country and thinks there are less problems than everyone says smile.gif The socialist country I meant was East Germany (aka DDR = GDR). And the problem with the socialism in that case is the way the economy was handled. And the fact that neither the infrastructure nor the economy itself was in good condition. Masses of money went into increasing the standards in East Germany. In fact, you still get lower wages in East Germany today. The process is not over. There still is the "solidarity tax" which is meant to help with that. And that's one of the reasons for the weak economy now and the high unemployment rate. But still, it's better to have a unified Germany after all. So we have to accept the problems and work further on solving them. I mostly agree with Baron, although I wouldn't use such a drastic language. I'm more for diplomacy... an optimistic person. Concerning that, coolhandab was right. I didnt mean to use such "hard" words, but I get mad when someone critisizes "our " contries when they have just as much problems if not more at their own :mad: Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 10, 2005, 10:09:22 AM Thank god we don't ;)
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: hypercube on July 10, 2005, 11:38:39 AM well we still must admit, that some european countries have some serious issues and big problems, but i am happy to say that countries united under the european flag are mostly without serious problems with uneployment, crime, health and so on...
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 10, 2005, 11:45:58 AM All countries have problems, some more so then others, we could focus on each all day and say thats what makes your country suck, but then the other individual can do the same thing to you.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 10, 2005, 11:51:54 AM Precisely :)
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: startrek47 on July 10, 2005, 12:08:49 PM wth?IRA?they didnt pay their taxes, so they bomed them???
EDIT:oops sry that's irs... Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: startrek47 on July 10, 2005, 12:10:41 PM oh and i just saw the last page, can we try to keep it in the political thread please?
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 10, 2005, 12:23:45 PM Quote oh and i just saw the last page, can we try to keep it in the political thread please? Can we not double, triple, quadrouple post plizz? :rolleyes: Oh BTW Al Queida took resposibility, I dont think IRA had anything to do with it :) Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 11, 2005, 02:18:13 PM they did'nt thats what i said earler.
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: coolhandab on July 13, 2005, 12:38:58 AM Look, in the US we've only had one major act of domestic terrorism (Oklahoma City, 1994). In Europe you've got an awful lot of "local" muslims, mostly trained in German mosques, blowing up non-muslims in Madrid, and now London. And you talk about racism being a problem here. How many americans are blowing up their fellow citizens? Not too many last time I checked ...
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: ewm90 on July 13, 2005, 03:01:53 AM thay figer out how did the bombing.
it was 4 uk sitosons of pakistan oragin. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: [TD]Roach on July 13, 2005, 06:12:28 AM yes you are half correct, 4 pakistani from an terrorstgroup that is sides with the al qaida and even works with it. that was stated.
coolhand. local muslims were not all trained in germany and they all moved there by parents at a young age from the middle east. and that isn't even racism. that is due to religious belief. In the US, alot of people blow eachother up, See the many colleges being the site of mass murders by students. anyway that is becoming the politics thread. Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 13, 2005, 09:23:32 AM Quote Look, in the US we've only had one major act of domestic terrorism (Oklahoma City, 1994). In Europe you've got an awful lot of "local" muslims, mostly trained in German mosques, blowing up non-muslims in Madrid, and now London. And you talk about racism being a problem here. How many americans are blowing up their fellow citizens? Not too many last time I checked ... Nope u r still shooting each other rather than blowing up ;) Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: hypercube on July 13, 2005, 12:02:19 PM the fact is, that in europe, hate crime virtually doesn't exist
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: Eufnoc on July 13, 2005, 12:10:27 PM well it does in the uk, we have many racisit partys such as the bnp (becoming very strong, beat ukip and green party in the last election) ukKKK wnp and many more, german still have a strong nazi movment so that will still have a hate crime, spain has that war against eta, so that will also have hate crime, i don't about any other countrys though
Title: Bomb Attack In London Post by: hypercube on July 13, 2005, 08:51:39 PM yeh i guess you'r right....i didn't think what i was saying, yeah it does exist(just not in my coutry) but i dare to state, that it's MUCH less extencive than in US.
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