Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

Ok, post anything odd in Star Trek, (like how the cave floors are all flat) or something odd in the world that has to do with ST.

Here my Odd in the world.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...3806282-0411242 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009LI59/002-3806282-0411242)  

how about how the borg only ever send 1 cube to earth y not send more? with an armada of 15 cubes they could take the AQ only species 8472 could kill that.

why is it in star trek only the ensigns die :unsure: ???

cts006: The Borg didnt think it was necessary for any more ships to be ordered to attack Earth, but they miscalculated...twice.
Eufnoc: Ensigns arent the only ones who die, so do lieutenants, but there are mostly Ensigns onboard a starship so most of the people that die are ensigns... ^_^  

did anyone see anything wrong with the page at the othere end of the link. Look at the title

Why, in Star Trek Generations did Troi NOT break orbit in the final battle.  Riker ordered her to break orbit at the beginning of the battle and for good reason, you can't fight in orbit well and what happens if your engines fail?  Oh well, Troi never broke orbit, Riker never noticed, and the ship crashed into the planet...

Star Trek has some clear continuality errors, but so do any show.  The clearest one is the first Star Trek TOS show, I forget the episode name.  James Kirk's gravestone had James R. Kirk on it, when it is canon that his middle name is Tiberious.

Now, the greater fun is making stories in the background to cover up such flaws.  I think the R was an abbreviation of a middlename or nickname that Kirk got in his acadmey days, after all the person who made the gravestone knew Kirk well and wasn't being too nice at the time.  So, thus, the R could have been an inside joke, more or less a taunting within a small battle.

Ok, here is one that really begs an explaination.  Star Trek First Contact... the first warp ship cleary has positions for 3 crew and has to be crewed by 3 people... yet 2 of those people were from the Enterprise, helping out Cochrine.  Since this was a famous voyage and clearly all details about it were saved for later... didn't the Enterprise SERIOUSLY screw up history by putting 2 of their crew, people who would completely vanish when the Enterprise goes into the future, on the warp ship?  Where is the Prime Directive in this case?

Ok, that is my little pointed out flaw for the day...

Since Cochrane (that is how it is spelled, not Cochrine) was told about the future, maybe he didnt say that it was Riker and La Forge that were co-piloting the Phoenix.
A major inconsistancy in all Star Trek seres and movies is the strength of the ships. I'll just point out a few of them. In Voyager, Paris destroyed a Kazon ship with 8 phaser blasts from a type 9 shuttle, yet the Kazon ship barely even damaged the already damaged shuttle with the same number of hits.
In DS9, it seems that every other ship except the "important ones" like the Defiant, Rotarran, etc. are all destroyed so easily. In one episode of DS9, an Excelsior class was destroyed with one phaser beam from a Cardassian defence platform. Even though it could have sustained damage before, there was no visible damage to the ship that could be enough for a siingle phaser beam to rip through the hull.  

ya i agree half the battles on startrek are way to much big explosions and to little realistic combat, ships get blown up by single phaser beams or pulse blast while others only lose sheilds slooowly and then take dozens of hits to the hull before exploding   :blink:   by far the worst continuity error EVER was the episode were tom and harry with help from neelix  :x  somehow managed to develope transwarp drive on a small shuttle even though all of starfleet, klingons, and romulans have not developed it on any of there ships with hundreds of the best scientist working on it  :wacko: you could try and say that becuase of there encounter with the borg tom and harry had more info on how transwarp worked than starfleet, but then again starfleet has destroyed dozens of borg ships (and no doubt worked with borg technology from them)  

i know they underestimated them but, it only took a sleep command to kill the cuve come on, and threve dpne more atacks than 1 if u count the movies books and games...

Yeah, and in the DS9 episode "Call to Arms", the Defiant and Rotarran fly away into the Dominion fleet. I mean, i knwo they had to go that direction to meet up with the Allied fleet coming back from Cardassian space, but hell, theres thousands of Dom ships, they would no way be able to get even near it without a pounding, and then they even cloak, which involves lowering shields. Lol, nevermind

There's always the silhouettes of the vehicles in the TNG tech. manual.

okay, how about this. during generations, various members of the crew change styles of uniforms between scenes (obviously a limitation of shooting the scenes for the movies).

also, how is it that DS9/Voyager had a unique uniform when the rest of Starfleet used the TNG uniform? This can be explained for Voyager stuck in the Delta Quadrant, but DS9?

why does the E-D fire a literal barrage of phasers from the warp nacelles and saucer against the Borg cube in Best of Both Worlds but never fire more than one beam at a time again even when they desperately needed it (Generations comes to mind).

one more. is it just me or does Starfleet not have an Army or Marine Corps or something? security officers wind up doing that stuff and seem to fail miserably at it (think of the sterotypical redshirts on TOS).

The original idea for the jumpsuits in DS9 was that Starfleet personnel on starships would have TNG style uniforms and personnel on stations would have DS9 style jumpsuits. This is supported by the fact that in the first seasons, most officers coming from docked ships to talk to Sisko wore the TNG style uniforms.

The time it was screwed was when the Voyager crew started to wear them as only variant. It seems that it was decided to make those Uniforms one of two alternatives throughout Starfleet (supported by the fact that they are changing uniforms in Generations randomly) or finally make it for everyone (remember the introduction of new style TNG uniforms? For some time, background cast was still wearing the same jumpsuits).

And also about the strenght of the borg cube, when they first met the borg and at the masacre at wolf 359 a cube only needed to fire once at a ship and it was destroyed :o  But if u just watch that episode of voyager where they encounter the tactical cube, they had quite a long fight with it and they werent even badly damaged :huh:  

the big bad borg cube was a fuse cube and it was the first invasion they had faced an they were very ill prepared, also the older janeway brought them new kind of aurmorto fase fuse cube and besides, u cant kill the heros :lol:  

Fusion cubes dont exist in ST universe :P  

Actually the first Borg incursion into Federation space was made by a huge cube that was probably made out of alot of smaller ones.

Really I never heared of that b4, u know in a movie or a series :huh:  

Thats because you can't have a supercube attack an intrepid class in a series and expect the sotryline to make the cube sound too big and bad.

You'll probably find some (or alot) scaling issues in Trek aswell... not to mention that there seems to be no Z-axis to speak of.

And how about the well-known oh-so-creative "Forehead-of-the-week" aliens appearing throughout all ST series?

Scaling issues, ship strength issues (sub-chapter "How the Borg lost all menace"), the famous "extra in red shirt", inconsistencies involving warp speeds (partially solved by the subspace-corridor theory), people moving or talking while they are beamed, the apparent godhood of the Voyager and its crew, and the general "guys who are too stupid to actually be captain (security officer, admiral, w/e) but are right now to die or add some conflict to the story"

here is one why do you all think the borg are a collective drone hive mind...
they were soposed to be a bug race. but the bugeat stopet that idea

enterprise need i michin enay thing more.  enterpise is the bigest most anoing mustake so for.

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Scaling isuses, how about in first contact where tehy make the defiant 120-180m long 60m long.

I have one, Theres always an exact time or numebr put to things that could have alot of variables, like the warpcore will overload in 20.45 seconds? or we should get about 12 shots off before the borg adapt? 12??? how did worf get that number 10-15 shots would be a better way to put that, but assigning it an exact number? (Besides on enterprise they got off more than 12 shots with primitive weapons i think i counted 26 shots)
 

Enterprise is basicly the crap that startrek has become due to B&B. 12, 26, it doesn't matter, so long as it attracts veiwers. ST has always been full of unrealistic battles and huge lack of z axis. Enterprise takes this concept to the fullest, and a bit beyond that.

Red Shirts (unkown ensign/liutenant extras) are along with the purpose of getting killed off to add drama or simply add to the body count. A constant in ST. They never return, once they are on an away mission, it's over

There is some sort of need for kirk to get his shirt ripped to peices in battle every time melee conflict begins.

Everytime the enterprise fires phasers, it uses the same shot

Enemy ships are rarely shown if at all

There is always a spock/data/worf/odo/7of9/T'pol character among the crew dealing with a lack of emotion or otherwise dealing with trying to be more human.

The enterprise D can't keep an ensign/helmsman for more then 3 episodes

2, no 3, mabey 4 enterprises have been distroyed by birds of prey. Old rustbucket ships with a crew of around 12-13 seem to always destroy enterprise after enterprise. And are always if not destroying it, making some dang big arse holes. Also note that a war"bird" fleet destroyed the Enterprise C, or was it B? Do they have something againts "birds" or think birds rock or something.... oh and don't forget the enterprise E getting nearly destroyed by a reman war"bird"

They use every plausible opertunity to get a cast member naked, or half naked, atleast recently. Topless vulcan mediatation massages... Poor excuses to try and get veiwers via show off womens breasts. It's a bit of a low for star trek, which was something of a family show a while back. It would be alright if it wasn't startrek and it didn't need to do this to get viewers

Klingons for some strange reason love Shakespear? Mabey it has something to do with a warrior culture and the name, shake spear... Not nessisarily a bad thing, but certainly odd indeed

Starfleet uniforms, and well everybody elses scream "SHOOT ME" with heavy contrasting bright colors on black.  

Umm, i belive all first season was Geordi as ent D helmsman.
Whats wrong with naked chicks?
Starfleet uniforms arent designed for combat in the sence of camoflauge. There designed to be worn on a starship for starship operation.

You want something odd, Why people in movies 1-2-3 wore special suits in enginering, if its radiation they never wore one before? they dont wear them now? whats with the suits?

Whats wrong with naked chicks? Because if a series needs to shove boobs onto the TV to get ratings, the show is worthless. Not that all shows that have such are worthless, but those that need such in order to be watched, are worthless

If they can combie nudity and sci-fi im happy.

LOL well Im happy too, but it is ruening its reputation :(  

I guess they were trying to be realistic with the engineering section, I think TNG messed up alot of the realisticness by putting federation people in those casual 'can't touch this but still do in the end easily' suits.