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Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 04, 2005, 06:56:05 PM i know its not so handy for the 56k people but i got cable...
because i don't need a cd to play i can't instal fleet operations :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 05, 2005, 08:03:55 AM hey i asked my self the same question last time i downloaded it lol
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 05, 2005, 08:46:21 AM :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: plz package it.. most mods are packed :P
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 05, 2005, 07:15:27 PM lol i think the question i want to ask is release version 3 and have it zipped :cry:
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 05, 2005, 08:11:26 PM oh please let it be packed :shifty:
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 05, 2005, 11:48:59 PM o btw sorry its a little late mate, welcome to the forums, thought i had seen you befor then saw your post count :P
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 06, 2005, 01:38:41 AM As I recall there will never be a zip packaged version for many reasons.
#1 Compatibilty, keeps all installs compatible #2 Instalation size, Only nesecarily files are transfered over #3 Ease of install, Just put the cd in and run the installer I think those are why, and if you look around youl see that there wont be a zip version. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Tiberious726 on May 06, 2005, 02:29:35 AM the installs would still be compatible all you would have to do is unzip it then follow your instructions
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 06, 2005, 03:17:18 AM You shouldent need a Zip version, *waves hand* the current setup will suffice.
Seriosly, If you need a CD to install A2 in the first place to use a zip, and to play it. Than just keep the A2 cd in the drive and let the installerdo its job, and make a smaller install than you would wind up with using the zip file. There in lies the compatibility thing. All those extra files that are left over (since fleet ops installer only installs the files from the cd that it needs and nothing more) will cause a compatibility error with people using the installer. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 06, 2005, 06:15:36 AM :shifty: i unpacked the .exe :shifty:
i unpacked it with winrar :P Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 06, 2005, 05:41:44 PM why mess with something like this????
:huh: seems fine the way it is :P :fish: :cloak: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 06, 2005, 11:04:31 PM no i agree with Degra, it does need to be zipped, you can always have the option of downloading a non zipped file, filefront etc don't charge any more, infact they don't charge atall!
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 07, 2005, 05:20:48 AM Are you all missing the compatibility point here? besides that inside the exe it is already compressed using the highest free compression i do belive.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 07, 2005, 10:36:17 AM upacking with winrar doesn't works you start the game and it crashes
if you want to compress it, remove sound files and pack them in a other package.. isn't that hard.. :angel: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 07, 2005, 11:06:50 AM still the compatibility issue
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 07, 2005, 11:34:40 AM make a good running version of Fleet operations and zip it and give it a special ID like, Star trek Armade 2: Fleet operations Zip version
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 07, 2005, 05:06:39 PM Than it woudlent be compaitble with anyone who doesnt have zip, so what is the point in the end if you cant play with others.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on May 07, 2005, 05:38:28 PM And also because, in order to install FO u need original A2 CD, this means that if u have that stripped down version u can get from kazaa or some other places it wont work. And the only reason anyone really would ask for zipped files is because they dont have an original A2 CD.
The way ths installer works now is simpler, and more compatable than zipped stuff would ever be :P Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 07, 2005, 06:39:19 PM er yeh.. wot TBB said :blink: :shifty: :ermm: :thumbsup:
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 07, 2005, 11:52:17 PM i think all he means (the same as me) is stick the .exe in a zip file, same installer etc, just in a .zip, i don't see why this would f*** up compatablity etc?
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 08, 2005, 03:29:14 PM i didnt think that bacuse I dont see and f***ing point to it. The file is already compressed.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 08, 2005, 04:16:36 PM for fleet ops im more than happy to wait out the dl time :wacko: :blink: :P :D
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 08, 2005, 08:00:30 PM but the zip should cut some more time off it? it don't really bother me as i have a 2mb connection
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 08, 2005, 10:03:22 PM a ziped or rared version would be larger then our current installer. the installer uses the best freeware compression we could find -> we already love the 56k users :)
besides that: get a download manager! :P Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 09, 2005, 05:56:17 AM but you can leave the sound files out and pack them in another package right?
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 09, 2005, 12:19:17 PM we already did that with the music. the sound files themselves are very small and that would be no use :) why should it be better to download 10 seperate files and give you extra work?
Get a download manager! ^_^ (i think i will put that line at the end of every post in this topic) Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 09, 2005, 05:33:12 PM lol, get a download manager... better : get a mac!
but can't they make a installer wich you don't need the CD? Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 09, 2005, 05:40:58 PM surley that would make the download time even longer :sleeping:
i think its fine the way it is :shuriken: :pimp: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 09, 2005, 05:56:35 PM i don't think so becouse you don't need to insert the CD then..
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 09, 2005, 06:45:54 PM yeah buti don't thinkte fo team codones pirecey, howevr i do :P
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 09, 2005, 07:06:25 PM If you want to know specificaly why it would be bigger zipped, learn how file compression works.
*a quick guide to file comression* Most types of computer files are fairly redundant -- they have the same information listed over and over again. File-compression programs simply get rid of the redundancy. Instead of listing a piece of information over and over again, a file-compression program lists that information once and then refers back to it whenever it appears in the original program. As an example, let's look at a type of information we're all familiar with: words. In John F. Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address, he delivered this famous line: "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country." The quote has 17 words, made up of 61 letters, 16 spaces, one dash and one period. If each letter, space or punctuation mark takes up one unit of memory, we get a total file size of 79 units. To get the file size down, we need to look for redundancies. Immediately, we notice that: "ask" appears two times "what" appears two times "your" appears two times "country" appears two times "can" appears two times "do" appears two times "for" appears two times "you" appears two times Ignoring the difference between capital and lower-case letters, roughly half of the phrase is redundant. Nine words -- ask, not, what, your, country, can, do, for, you -- give us almost everything we need for the entire quote. To construct the second half of the phrase, we just point to the words in the first half and fill in the spaces and punctuation. In the next section, we'll see how file-compression systems accomplish this. Most compression programs use a variation of the LZ adaptive dictionary-based algorithm to shrink files. "LZ" refers to Lempel and Ziv, the algorithm's creators, and "dictionary" refers to the method of cataloging pieces of data. The system for arranging dictionaries varies, but it could be as simple as a numbered list. When we go through Kennedy's famous words, we pick out the words that are repeated and put them into the numbered index. Then, we simply write the number instead of writing out the whole word. So, if this is our dictionary: ask what your country can do for you Our sentence now reads: "1 not 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 -- 1 2 8 5 6 7 3 4" If you knew the system, you could easily reconstruct the original phrase using only this dictionary and number pattern. This is what the expansion program on your computer does when it expands a downloaded file. You might also have encountered compressed files that open themselves up. To create this sort of file, the programmer includes a simple expansion program with the compressed file. It automatically reconstructs the original file once it's downloaded. But how much space have we actually saved with this system? "1 not 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 -- 1 2 8 5 6 7 3 4" is certainly shorter than "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country;" but keep in mind that we need to save the dictionary itself along with the file. In an actual compression scheme, figuring out the various file requirements would be fairly complicated; but for our purposes, let's go back to the idea that every character and every space takes up one unit of memory. We already saw that the full phrase takes up 79 units. Our compressed sentence (including spaces) takes up 37 units, and the dictionary (words and numbers) also takes up 37 units. This gives us a file size of 74, so we haven't reduced the file size by very much. But this is only one sentence! You can imagine that if the compression program worked through the rest of Kennedy's speech, it would find these words and others repeated many more times. And, as we'll see in the next section, it would also be rewriting the dictionary to get the most efficient organization possible. In our example, we picked out all the repeated words and put those in a dictionary. To us, this is the most obvious way to write a dictionary. But a compression program sees it quite differently: It doesn't have any concept of separate words -- it only looks for patterns. And in order to reduce the file size as much as possible, it carefully selects which patterns to include in the dictionary. If we approach the phrase from this perspective, we end up with a completely different dictionary. If the compression program scanned Kennedy's phrase, the first redundancy it would come across would be only a couple of letters long. In "ask not what your," there is a repeated pattern of the letter "t" followed by a space -- in "not" and "what." If the compression program wrote this to the dictionary, it could write a "1" every time a "t" were followed by a space. But in this short phrase, this pattern doesn't occur enough to make it a worthwhile entry, so the program would eventually overwrite it. The next thing the program might notice is "ou," which appears in both "your" and "country." If this were a longer document, writing this pattern to the dictionary could save a lot of space -- "ou" is a fairly common combination in the English language. But as the compression program worked through this sentence, it would quickly discover a better choice for a dictionary entry: Not only is "ou" repeated, but the entire words "your" and "country" are both repeated, and they are actually repeated together, as the phrase "your country." In this case, the program would overwrite the dictionary entry for "ou" with the entry for "your country." The phrase "can do for" is also repeated, one time followed by "your" and one time followed by "you," giving us a repeated pattern of "can do for you." This lets us write 15 characters (including spaces) with one number value, while "your country" only lets us write 13 characters (with spaces) with one number value, so the program would overwrite the "your country" entry as just "r country," and then write a separate entry for "can do for you." The program proceeds in this way, picking up all repeated bits of information and then calculating which patterns it should write to the dictionary. This ability to rewrite the dictionary is the "adaptive" part of LZ adaptive dictionary-based algorithm. The way a program actually does this is fairly complicated, as you can see by the discussions on Data-Compression.com. No matter what specific method you use, this in-depth searching system lets you compress the file much more efficiently than you could by just picking out words. Using the patterns we picked out above, and adding "__" for spaces, we come up with this larger dictionary: ask__ what__ you r__country __can__do__for__you And this smaller sentence: "1not__2345__--__12354" The sentence now takes up 18 units of memory, and our dictionary takes up 41 units. So we've compressed the total file size from 79 units to 59 units! This is just one way of compressing the phrase, and not necessarily the most efficient one. (See if you can find a better way!) In the next section, we'll see some of the ways in which compression percentage might vary. So how good is this system? The file-reduction ratio depends on a number of factors, including file type, file size and compression scheme. In most languages of the world, certain letters and words often appear together in the same pattern. Because of this high rate of redundancy, text files compress very well. A reduction of 50 percent or more is typical for a good-sized text file. Most programming languages are also very redundant because they use a relatively small collection of commands, which frequently go together in a set pattern. Files that include a lot of unique information, such as graphics or MP3 files, cannot be compressed much with this system because they don't repeat many patterns (more on this in the next section). If a file has a lot of repeated patterns, the rate of reduction typically increases with file size. You can see this just by looking at our example -- if we had more of Kennedy's speech, we would be able to refer to the patterns in our dictionary more often, and so get more out of each entry's file space. Also, more pervasive patterns might emerge in the longer work, allowing us to create a more efficient dictionary. This efficiency also depends on the specific algorithm used by the compression program. Some programs are particularly suited to picking up patterns in certain types of files, and so may compress them more succinctly. Others have dictionaries within dictionaries, which might compress efficiently for larger files but not for smaller ones. While all compression programs of this sort work with the same basic idea, there is actually a good deal of variation in the manner of execution. Programmers are always trying to build a better system. As Optec states fleetops uses the best free compression so it makes having anyother compression even outside it pointless as it would make it bigger just beacuse the ditcionary file would be bigger. If you have dialup, or sh*tty broadband, try a download manager such as Download Accelerator plus at www.speedbit.com. It can save the process of a download. Now that you know dont complain about the size, it already compresses everything to the max and realize that it is a total conversion and uses less and less original game data every release. Just remember if the fleetops team wasnt as smart as they are it may be a 200mb+ download. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 09, 2005, 08:13:41 PM Heh, lets all listen to degra and keep a crappy mac!
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 09, 2005, 08:20:27 PM Degra, have you read aything here, a cdless version means it wont be compartible.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 10, 2005, 06:26:18 AM Quote If you want to know specificaly why it would be bigger zipped, learn how file compression works. i think cts006 is getting mad about his mac, better get the G5 then :P*a quick guide to file comression* Most types of computer files are fairly redundant -- they have the same information listed over and over again. File-compression programs simply get rid of the redundancy. Instead of listing a piece of information over and over again, a file-compression program lists that information once and then refers back to it whenever it appears in the original program. As an example, let's look at a type of information we're all familiar with: words. In John F. Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address, he delivered this famous line: "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country." The quote has 17 words, made up of 61 letters, 16 spaces, one dash and one period. If each letter, space or punctuation mark takes up one unit of memory, we get a total file size of 79 units. To get the file size down, we need to look for redundancies. Immediately, we notice that: "ask" appears two times "what" appears two times "your" appears two times "country" appears two times "can" appears two times "do" appears two times "for" appears two times "you" appears two times Ignoring the difference between capital and lower-case letters, roughly half of the phrase is redundant. Nine words -- ask, not, what, your, country, can, do, for, you -- give us almost everything we need for the entire quote. To construct the second half of the phrase, we just point to the words in the first half and fill in the spaces and punctuation. In the next section, we'll see how file-compression systems accomplish this. Most compression programs use a variation of the LZ adaptive dictionary-based algorithm to shrink files. "LZ" refers to Lempel and Ziv, the algorithm's creators, and "dictionary" refers to the method of cataloging pieces of data. The system for arranging dictionaries varies, but it could be as simple as a numbered list. When we go through Kennedy's famous words, we pick out the words that are repeated and put them into the numbered index. Then, we simply write the number instead of writing out the whole word. So, if this is our dictionary: ask what your country can do for you Our sentence now reads: "1 not 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 -- 1 2 8 5 6 7 3 4" If you knew the system, you could easily reconstruct the original phrase using only this dictionary and number pattern. This is what the expansion program on your computer does when it expands a downloaded file. You might also have encountered compressed files that open themselves up. To create this sort of file, the programmer includes a simple expansion program with the compressed file. It automatically reconstructs the original file once it's downloaded. But how much space have we actually saved with this system? "1 not 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 -- 1 2 8 5 6 7 3 4" is certainly shorter than "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country;" but keep in mind that we need to save the dictionary itself along with the file. In an actual compression scheme, figuring out the various file requirements would be fairly complicated; but for our purposes, let's go back to the idea that every character and every space takes up one unit of memory. We already saw that the full phrase takes up 79 units. Our compressed sentence (including spaces) takes up 37 units, and the dictionary (words and numbers) also takes up 37 units. This gives us a file size of 74, so we haven't reduced the file size by very much. But this is only one sentence! You can imagine that if the compression program worked through the rest of Kennedy's speech, it would find these words and others repeated many more times. And, as we'll see in the next section, it would also be rewriting the dictionary to get the most efficient organization possible. In our example, we picked out all the repeated words and put those in a dictionary. To us, this is the most obvious way to write a dictionary. But a compression program sees it quite differently: It doesn't have any concept of separate words -- it only looks for patterns. And in order to reduce the file size as much as possible, it carefully selects which patterns to include in the dictionary. If we approach the phrase from this perspective, we end up with a completely different dictionary. If the compression program scanned Kennedy's phrase, the first redundancy it would come across would be only a couple of letters long. In "ask not what your," there is a repeated pattern of the letter "t" followed by a space -- in "not" and "what." If the compression program wrote this to the dictionary, it could write a "1" every time a "t" were followed by a space. But in this short phrase, this pattern doesn't occur enough to make it a worthwhile entry, so the program would eventually overwrite it. The next thing the program might notice is "ou," which appears in both "your" and "country." If this were a longer document, writing this pattern to the dictionary could save a lot of space -- "ou" is a fairly common combination in the English language. But as the compression program worked through this sentence, it would quickly discover a better choice for a dictionary entry: Not only is "ou" repeated, but the entire words "your" and "country" are both repeated, and they are actually repeated together, as the phrase "your country." In this case, the program would overwrite the dictionary entry for "ou" with the entry for "your country." The phrase "can do for" is also repeated, one time followed by "your" and one time followed by "you," giving us a repeated pattern of "can do for you." This lets us write 15 characters (including spaces) with one number value, while "your country" only lets us write 13 characters (with spaces) with one number value, so the program would overwrite the "your country" entry as just "r country," and then write a separate entry for "can do for you." The program proceeds in this way, picking up all repeated bits of information and then calculating which patterns it should write to the dictionary. This ability to rewrite the dictionary is the "adaptive" part of LZ adaptive dictionary-based algorithm. The way a program actually does this is fairly complicated, as you can see by the discussions on Data-Compression.com. No matter what specific method you use, this in-depth searching system lets you compress the file much more efficiently than you could by just picking out words. Using the patterns we picked out above, and adding "__" for spaces, we come up with this larger dictionary: ask__ what__ you r__country __can__do__for__you And this smaller sentence: "1not__2345__--__12354" The sentence now takes up 18 units of memory, and our dictionary takes up 41 units. So we've compressed the total file size from 79 units to 59 units! This is just one way of compressing the phrase, and not necessarily the most efficient one. (See if you can find a better way!) In the next section, we'll see some of the ways in which compression percentage might vary. So how good is this system? The file-reduction ratio depends on a number of factors, including file type, file size and compression scheme. In most languages of the world, certain letters and words often appear together in the same pattern. Because of this high rate of redundancy, text files compress very well. A reduction of 50 percent or more is typical for a good-sized text file. Most programming languages are also very redundant because they use a relatively small collection of commands, which frequently go together in a set pattern. Files that include a lot of unique information, such as graphics or MP3 files, cannot be compressed much with this system because they don't repeat many patterns (more on this in the next section). If a file has a lot of repeated patterns, the rate of reduction typically increases with file size. You can see this just by looking at our example -- if we had more of Kennedy's speech, we would be able to refer to the patterns in our dictionary more often, and so get more out of each entry's file space. Also, more pervasive patterns might emerge in the longer work, allowing us to create a more efficient dictionary. This efficiency also depends on the specific algorithm used by the compression program. Some programs are particularly suited to picking up patterns in certain types of files, and so may compress them more succinctly. Others have dictionaries within dictionaries, which might compress efficiently for larger files but not for smaller ones. While all compression programs of this sort work with the same basic idea, there is actually a good deal of variation in the manner of execution. Programmers are always trying to build a better system. As Optec states fleetops uses the best free compression so it makes having anyother compression even outside it pointless as it would make it bigger just beacuse the ditcionary file would be bigger. If you have dialup, or sh*tty broadband, try a download manager such as Download Accelerator plus at www.speedbit.com. It can save the process of a download. Now that you know dont complain about the size, it already compresses everything to the max and realize that it is a total conversion and uses less and less original game data every release. Just remember if the fleetops team wasnt as smart as they are it may be a 200mb+ download. and no i didn't saw anything about it... Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 10, 2005, 10:35:37 AM i think it's not that much work to put a little cd in your cd drive.. except you don't have one! that of course would make you an ignorant ******* who penetrates the gaming industry which brings all the blinking stuff to you! :cry:
You see, we *starting to sing* do it the riiiiight way :D Get a download manager! ^_^ Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 10, 2005, 04:48:24 PM Optec is showing his claws today!
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 10, 2005, 05:00:21 PM hey, there was a smiley at the end ;)
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 10, 2005, 05:46:50 PM 1 thing i got to say:
:lol: get a mac! :lol: i am so evil :P but how do i need to get a CD of armade when i can't buy it any more in the store's? last CD was broken :cry: and i downloaded a no cd crack... Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 10, 2005, 06:36:42 PM umm, you could always get a second hand one, get a copy of one etc, where do you live? if its in the uki will send you one.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 10, 2005, 07:06:04 PM no, i dont life in the UK :unsure:
I live in that big country next to deutschland :P ( netherlands ) Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Major A Payne on May 10, 2005, 07:22:17 PM Although this doesnt' effect me due to my high speed cable modem, has it been suggested that the mod be split into several smaller chunks with a BAT file to recombine them?? I did it with BI2 to make it more user freindly for 56kers
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 10, 2005, 08:25:36 PM thats possible...i think but you got 1 problem, if you rejoin them wil it be zip or exe?
in most times i play skirmish now i have the mod Borg incrusion 2 installed :P wich i really like... but i want a want to play this mod once in mine life :P and also :lol: Get a mac! :lol: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 10, 2005, 08:43:38 PM MACINTOSH SUX ASS. Notice no smiley.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 10, 2005, 09:30:39 PM i will bring this ideas to our installer chief docacola ^_^
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 10, 2005, 09:39:52 PM http:///files.redvsblue.com/switch/RvB_Switch.mov (http:///files.redvsblue.com/switch/RvB_Switch.mov)
Case closed on the mac. (Right click and save as) Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 10, 2005, 11:07:38 PM Pwned, I had a better one somewhere.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 11, 2005, 12:02:30 AM Zork, that puzzle game with the apple logo, breakout, super breakout... photoshop.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 11, 2005, 05:55:54 AM anti-mac/apple stuff :lol:
http://84.81.202.64/members/antiapple/pics...nkDifferent.jpg (http://84.81.202.64/members/antiapple/pics/thinkDifferent.jpg) http://84.81.202.64/members/antiapple/pics/sitDifferent.bmp (http://84.81.202.64/members/antiapple/pics/sitDifferent.bmp) these 2 :P Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 12, 2005, 03:15:31 AM Uh, your the guy who was tellin all of us to get them in the first place.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 12, 2005, 05:51:30 PM yes i know: Get a mac! if you have one you aren't able to anything on it :P
but i hate macs Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 12, 2005, 07:51:46 PM you cave into pier pressure really fast
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 12, 2005, 08:51:26 PM its peer
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 12, 2005, 09:14:52 PM about your cd prob.... i got my second copy on ebay :thumbsup:
chances are you'll find a copy there :pirate: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on May 12, 2005, 10:00:40 PM It's pear pressure... (http://home.germany.net/100-499937/forpg/homer.gif) Mmmh, pears.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 12, 2005, 10:02:38 PM "Peer:
A person who has equal standing with another or others, as in rank, class, or age: children who are easily influenced by their peers." It is peer. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on May 13, 2005, 04:11:54 PM You know that this -> (http://home.germany.net/100-499937/forpg/homer.gif) indicates that I was joking? :D
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Optec on May 13, 2005, 05:00:11 PM Oh yes ^^
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 13, 2005, 05:09:49 PM i hate them from the beginning , you just can't use them... they are just stupid, idioot ... let it go...
so is say, Get a mac! :naugthy: Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: ewm90 on May 13, 2005, 06:38:11 PM macs have smaller vido cars and are not as good for networking macs are more exspinsive and thare are far fewer macs than pcs so whay get a mac?
macs DONT HAVE spiy whare or vireses. macs look cooler. macs use les ram to run thare oprating systom. macs are easer to use. macs are more frindly to pc meda. macs have more colors and oprate at a hier leval bits makeing evry thing look beter. macs have hire refrash rates for thare moniters than pcs do makeing vido vido games moves smother. most mac user love thare macs most pc user hate thare pcs. tow bad thare not a fo mac vertion. i think it cood be dun just make the mac instoler look at the pc cd, maby for the final FO vertion. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 13, 2005, 08:48:07 PM well i dont recall ever using a mac so i don't really care about that :P
so lets never speak of this again :D Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 13, 2005, 09:17:54 PM After I get my last post on the matter, DID YOU EVEN SEE MY VIDEO? UPGRADING A MAC, not posible.
PLAYING GAMES ON A MAC, well theres 6. MAKE VIDEO GAMES SMOOTHER???. realy need those extra frame rates for the puzzle game with the apple logo. If you run windows properly and not like a f***ing idiot, you wont get the spyware/viruses. Apple moniters are sweet, but that has nothing to do with mac's. Easier to use... With a nice big lurning curve. All operating systems just suck. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 14, 2005, 02:29:56 PM well make your own then
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 16, 2005, 08:04:43 PM Im waiting for google to make one for me.
EDIT: about the hwole mac thing http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-03 (http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-03) http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-08-16 (http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-08-16) Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: MrPsycho on May 19, 2005, 01:29:05 AM I'd just like to point out that as is, the game is not compatible with my system. And switching to a simple compression format like zip or rar or anything really, I'd be able to play the game.
So, that pretty much destroys your compatibility argument. If you have a problem with zip then just suggest we use a different format. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 19, 2005, 05:53:45 PM macs just sucks... and microsoft rules..
but to the zip. format back. the zip just works fine to me. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 21, 2005, 04:32:09 PM YOU ARE ALL.... *calms down* I was not talking baout it being compatible with a single computer, I was talking about multiplayer compatibilty. Multiplayer being the strength of this mod as there is no SP missions.
Pshyco why is it not compatible with your system? some reasons why might help with making it compatible. DEGRA... *calms down again*...*calmsdown again*...*calmsdown again*... AWW F**K IT! Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 23, 2005, 08:08:17 PM Macs suck, thats about it.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: MrPsycho on May 24, 2005, 03:43:30 AM Well its really great of you to say Macs suck, but I'm running linux.
:rolleyes: The strange intaller and launcher programs pretty much don't run in emulators - regardless of the fact that A2 runs fine. I still don't see how a cheap installer is protecting the integrity of MP. From my understanding, people can still add components to the game if they want to. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: ewm90 on May 24, 2005, 03:59:21 AM Quote Macs suck, thats about it. macs have more colors hier refesh rates oprate at hier bits thare oprating systom needs less ram to run when you have a mac you dont have to wory about vires or spiy whare macs are easyer to use and reqier less work to run well. pcs suckpc os's like microcrap requier huge amount of systom resores just to run the thing. tho a pc with linux are grate evin beter than mac, with out linux the only thing pcs are realy good at are wasting your life playing vido games and net working. Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on May 24, 2005, 04:50:50 AM Lol your such an idiot ewm, I don't feel like correcting you on everything. I'll just say that not every computer is the same, so you can't base your opinion on experiances of just a single computer, which ewm is doing.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on May 25, 2005, 01:28:02 AM The installer is protecting the compatibility of MP. Without it countless files from the original A2 that would cause incompatibility would be transfered over, not to mention that the run time edits and some other stuff that they coudlent legaly distribute but comes on the armada 2 cd.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Degra on May 26, 2005, 06:24:02 PM i don't want to play it online . . . . .
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Cpt Ryan on May 26, 2005, 07:25:16 PM Wahh????? :huh:
you mean you only ever play the cpu? Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: Eufnoc on May 26, 2005, 09:03:10 PM O COME ON DEGRA, I DON'T PLAY MANY GAMES ONLINE BUT EVEN I GET BOARD OF THE AI SOON - SORRY FOR CAPS DID NOT REALISE THEY WHERE ON TILL I HAD TYPED THIS IN.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: cts006 on June 01, 2005, 03:03:01 AM The AI on fleet ops sucks/is predictable/odd. You cant play it for more that a couple games withoutv getting bored.
Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: MrPsycho on June 01, 2005, 07:17:13 AM Quote The installer is protecting the compatibility of MP. Without it countless files from the original A2 that would cause incompatibility would be transfered over, not to mention that the run time edits and some other stuff that they coudlent legaly distribute but comes on the armada 2 cd. What countless files are you talking about? Every other mod is installed without an installer. And they don't need to distribute files from the A2 cd, any intelligent person can install the game themselves and add the mod!There is a difference between MP compatibility and compatibility with the original program. So far in your countless number of posts you haven't given any good reason that the installer protects either of them. Now about the launcher; as far as I can tell, the runtime edits are superficial changes to things like the font. I'm sure theres a way to do it without the launcher, or at the very least accomodate those who can't run the launcher. Make it optional. I'm sorry but your arguments are dissmissive and lack any understanding of the very basic problem that MANY PEOPLE CAN"T PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF THIS UNNECESSARY "FEATURE". Title: Why Is Fleet Operations Not Packed In Zip? Post by: startrek47 on June 01, 2005, 11:31:07 AM THIS mod however will not overwrite your current install of A2
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