Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

This happend yesterday when a friend and I played a game of Fleetops. I was the Federation, my friend where the Borg and we faced Klingon and Romulan on AI hard. Well, as we finaly defeated our opponents and went to look at the Log we saw something.

The most effective ship class in my team where the Venture class!

The one ship that you got in the begining had managed to survive, and not only that. It had also managed to destroy, not one but Two Neg'vhar Class destroyers. What do you think about that?

EDIT: I would post the log but for some reason it won't let me...

That is odd. Normaly the scout gets trashed in the first five minutes of a game but thats good. But how is it possible to destroy two klingon ship with that?  :blink:  

^^ I think it got lucky and fired the shots that took them out. And got lucky and didn't get targeted. But still, amazing isn't it?

Sometimes when the AI is moving it just ignores everyone, so it probably shouldn't be suprising. It's one of the major faults with A2 in my opinion.

a scout rush is a good idea then?

Lol, I recall you or bob trying that on me, you both found it most futile.

it depends on your base and defences

Try 5 Rhien refitted.

well and the number of scouts and preator do you have vengence mod?

Never heard of it.

its a pritty good mod it hase 7 new races and an @$$ lode of ships

Feringi?

no but maquis dominion breen rebels impearial and more

Sounds like ST vs SW 2, but with more then star wars and feds and klings.

yah and a few maps too but it is fun

Same old graphix?

I've tried that mod. As I recall, I couldn't use it. It wouldn't load (and I have a good system) and there are SO many fix patches to install that I never really bothered with it. Did they release a bundle of this by any chance (like a 1.1 with all fixes) because it does look good.

I still don't have a picture of what it actually is...

well i have vengence 1.3 and it is good

i think pd wants a link, hes asked three times.

Everyone leaves DEFIANT out, I will have my revenge :D  

yeah that happens alot to me! usually the early ships are the "best" usually the sabers or intrepids, becuse i use them for defending the base and if  5 of them destroy 10+ ships, that's hard to top

Anyone got a link for this mod? It sounds pretty sweet and I'd like to give it a go.

I still don't have a link, I mean it's not that hard to post one people.

Its here (http://205.209.171.51/afc/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=26&min=10&orderby=titleA&show=10#cat). But you need an account for AFC. The mods at the bottom of the page.

yeah that really happens alot to me! especially it the venture is at the defences in nirvana type maps, and if it manages to survive, it doesn't really mather which ship he kills he will be the best

if you want you can use my old one i dont use it anny more its
Cairo  sn
karlack  pw

I personally find Ventures real strong, about 1/3 of my entire fleet is Ventures, and for some odd reason, the AI likes to attack Ventures more than other, stronger capital ships, so while my enemy is busy attacking those pesky little things, my larger ships blow them up :D

don't expect the AI to be that simple in the next version

or human players hehe.

1/3 of the fleet venture type :S


I doubt u would survive long in online battles :D jk

lol i sent 3 fleets of venture to a noxter ai hard base, they where killed very quick but took out the star base (just)

The Noxter 'starbase' is annoying I have to use artillery ships to take it out because if I send in other ships they get pummeled by the area-damage caused by it.

aye, that and the moving a glands

Luckily they wont be in v3 :) ;)

why not? they too strong or somthing?

They cause game crashes so they wont be in v3 but will come back in v3.5 or v4, and this has been debated b4 :)

o ok then, i just don't like them as they are too strong for a portable weapon platform.

I think the Rommie scout is more powerful. I have kicked butt with just 5 or so destroying const. ships and other stuff.

yep, weapon platforms with the noxter base, a deadly combination, very hard to destroy anything

the biggest, and for me major problem of the balance is mrs breeder and mr klingon conship. they are too strong in my eyes. just build breeder on mass or klingon conships and u will win the match. wait for half a fleet breeder then move them to the enemy. too fast and too strong...humm...maybe not too strong but too fast.
klingon conships on mass...they are nearly as strong as neg´vars! hello? 3 fleets of conships and the ai press alt f4...   :omg:    i found the reason for the crashes!  

artilary ships against breeders & any ships with pulse weapons against construction ships  :P  

i think the acid glands are stupidly powerful and that spores weapon

Never gonna win that. Pulses suck against medium and large targets :P And the con ship will be tunned down big time for v3 anyway :P

the problem with the noxter is that on AI hard they build a defence of turrets near the mothership and it has usually 2 of them. The whole combi is deadly and my fleets would crumble wuickly with the combination of the turret and mothership. and if you manage to destroy a new one and try to build up a new fleet for a seocnd raid, they have everything built up again

the construction ships take quite heavy damage from pulses, i've seen the odf hitcharts for them. they would crumble from a pair of defiants/Bop/rhien...etc, etc.