Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

hey what do you all think about the new serie?

i like it, i think if they take it in the right direction it could be equal to ds9, i think the reason people dislike it so much si cuz they have forgetten that trek shows generally are not that great right out of the box, they take a few seasons to develope, people seem to want enterprise to be the next tng right off the bat and of course are disapointed.

add the romulan wars and then i'll watch. The borg tubes in Regeneration seemed more advanced than those in FC

hmmm... true but this is wow 5 years since FC and the animators had more time to develop the tubials hell even the ones in endgame VOY are more advanced, due too beter animation on them. and this was probably just ovberlooked.

too bad the seasons over

ya seriously i can't wait for it to start up again, even though i can't say its the best trek YET in may be in the future, and as i've seen every episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY and all the movies ten times over, it gets kinda boring with no new episodes to watch.

i totaly aggre cause i havem all on dvd and all the eps on my comp.

HI, HAVE BEEN PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE SERIES, BUT WAS CONCERNED WITH THE BORG PRESENSE IN THIS TIMELINE...................YEAH HERE WE GO WITH TEMPORAL MECHANICS .LOL.   THE OLD STORY OF TIME TRAVEL AND GOING BACK IN TIME AND CAUSING YOUR OWN EXISTANCE TO BE PREVENTED BY CAUSING EVENTS TO UNFOLD THAT PREVENT YOU BEING BORN, WHEN IF YOU HAD NEVER BEEN BORN HOW COULD YOU GO BACK IN TIME.    

     OKAY WE KNOW THAT IN FC THE BORG SPHERE WAS DESTROYED,,,,,,A TOTAL FACT THAT THE ENTERPRISE CREW OVERLOOKED..............BORG DRONES AND SURVIVE IN ENVIROMENTS THAT NORMAL HUMANOIDS CANNOT......WHY DIDNT PICARD INSURE THAT ALL EVIDENCE HAD BEEN REMOVED OR DESTROYED BEFORE TRAVELING BACK IN TIME...................POOR JUDGEMENT OR A STORY LINE IN THE MAKING LOL.    WHO KNOWS BUT IAM STILL PISSED AT DATA BEING DESTOYED IN NEMISIS........GO FIGURE

the thing is data is not completey gone. that andriod (i keep forgetting his name) had dats memory programmed in to him it's just going to take some time for it to get in, if you remember at the end it starts singing
 

b-4

thats the one

i think enterprise contradicts every thing in star trek and  i hate

like what?  

sorry had to go back to data in nemisis,  :cry: he wont be the same, u know it wont feel the same, it has to be the orginal data.. :cry:

i almost cryed at the end of that film, but luckly i had the self control, and the fact there were quite a few girls around  :D

well for one thing look at the triquaters in tos brick size look in ent mobile phone size
2.shield remougling not foung untill tng or voyager (one of the two) they have it in enterprise
i could go on!
in my opinun it sucks!!!! but if u like it thats your choice.

err enterprise has no sheilds, only hull polarization (which as far as a remeber all tng, ds9, voy ships had just it did not really do much)  i agree the tricorders could have been bigger but then again if your gonna have TOS sized tricorders then enterprise should have a tape recorder to (they had one on TOS)  :D  

I still can't believe data died  :cry: but i thought the movie pretty good lol

Notice how they always kill the best characters, Kirk, Spock, Data?

u little pimp making me goto outwar!!!
lol nice move wish i thought of that when i was part of it lol

lol, nice one

lol
 

lol  didn't think anybody would fall for that, but i do have some galaxy pics but my super slow internet dies if i put any pics, but i did get one amazing lol :omg:  

Okay, has anyone been watching Enterprise lately? It seems that the next season will kick a$$. From what the preview showed, it looks like there will be some sort of Elite Force team, like in Voyager: Elite Force. Looks like an awesome method of getting enterprise out of the hole it dug itself with the second season. :)  

its just basicly the (federation) earth marines, like the dudes on the agian class, not the hazard team.

a show about a hazard team would be cool too  :assimilate:  

Hazard team or earth marines; the point is the idea r0xors! I can't wait to see it ;)  

i was thinking a kligon or romulan perepctive show would be good but a show that contnues the hazard teams journey past elite force 2 would be awsome. I CANT WAIT TO C WHAT HAPPENES PHOTON TORPEDOS HAVE SHIELDS THEY MADE A FORCEFIELDS WHEN WILL ENTERPRISE GET SHIELDS.

u know what i think would be good???
if they shown a show about a klingon captin or a romulan instead of a fed one alll the time

yea, i like this idea of an alien captain as star, but i don't think the show would be as accepted as the ones with an human captain (recruiting new trekkies would be harder when viewers cannot identify with a captain :))

DOCa Cola

give enterprise a borg captain , they won't have anymore problems in a fight  :lol:  :P
enterprise +  :borg: captain = a :omg:  looking enemy   :kid:
 :assimilate:

but the idea of a non-human captain is good  :)  

wow some body likes my idea

mh, a show about a romulan starship would be cool  :cloak:
this way there wont always be this "we come in peace" federation storys but sabotage, spying anf the like :) and the cold war with the federation, tal shiar internal affairs.. wha, good stuff for a show :) but they choose a cowboy federation show  :pinch:  

hmm, i don't know what problems enterprise's have, i mean in nemesis they were nearly half destroyed before they realize "omg, we're under heavy attack!!"  :dead:

they should a bit more "an enemy ship, blast 'em to hell"  :D  like tripp said to malcolm in last episode in season 2
i liked to how archer destroyed the klingon ship  ^_^  

"We lurk in the Shadows"

Some one tell me why the romulans have cloaking devices in enterprise since, the romulans didnt even have them untill kirks time.

I dunno. I always thought the romulans had the cloaks throughout the entire TOS and before. Even if it doesn't make sense, it's not supposed to. The writers of Enterprise made it very clear that they were not looking to be 100% coherent with the Star Trek timeline. IE: all these races such as the Xindi and denoblulans never show up in the other shows. That's Enterprise's downfall, you get caught up figuring things out, when half the time they don't work with the original star trek sequence of events. Anyhoo, just thought I'd let y'all know!

Who knows, who cares that much....I just wonder why the Enterprise bridge is so BIG

it isnt that big, its only the size of the bridge of a normal ship, bigger than voyager but not as big as o say the bridge of a galaxy class.

Well the romulan cloaking device was a mistake in my opinion, but anyways I don't think they need to show only old races in enterprise, the xindi will probably have something quite bad happen to them (maybe they will be erased from history, or maybe they will have there homeworld blown up or something) and the denobulans are to small a race to ever get noticed later on when the shows are set on far off ships/stations, there are hundreds of world in the federation and we have only ever seen the races that live on a few dozen of em. Its reasonable that plenty of races near the core of the federation don't make up any of its population in the outer rims and thus would be rarely seen.  

Yah, and if amy one watches TOS the enterprise incedent its obvius the cloaking devices are wrong.  

My opinion: Enterprise is just an alternate timeline created by the Temporal Cold War. At the end of the series, the Cold War will end, and ST history will return to normal. The Enterprise will be replaced by the USS Daedalus. None of the stuff in the show will have happened. This will return continuity to normal.  

USS Daedalus, is this the NX-2's name? It should have launched by now. But it would have been interestiing if at the end the stuff never happend beacuse of the temperal cold war, but thats sort of like the classic it doesnt have to make sence if we say its a tempral paradox episode (spread over 3(probably to be 7) seasons)

The Daedalus, NCC-1, is supposedly the first vessel in Starfleet. A model of it was seen in Sisko's office in DS9

Ic,
This?

NOTE: I REALIZE THIS IS THE USS ESSEX

Yes, that is a Daedalus Class. Nice looking ship.

If u find a good looking version, the old TOS ones where BULL SH!T.

Yeah, TOS ships are... well... Bland. I am almost thankful Enterprise looks so modern.

It may not be canon, but who wants to see a new show that looks like it was made in the 60's when its suposed to be the future.

Hear Hear!

I'd like to have TOS re done, in the proper order with some continuity errors removed, than we discredit TOTOS and make it completly un canon. THERE IVE SAID IT!

Hmm... Good series idea.

Yah, BRING BACK THE MINI SKIRTS!!!!!!!!

I despise enterprise with a hatred. It has destroyed Star Trek. Continuit errors, continuity errors? It has no continuity. The ship mas made by taking the old left over akira model and making some small changes. They could have made a big bulky shuttle like ship or something more like what we have today, but no, they were lazy bums about it and just used an old left over. Not to mention what they did to the borg (1 shot from the 22nd cnetury enterprise takes out a massive armored borg ship, WTH) and the trash they put on it. Vulcans in enterprise, they are downtrodding disrespectful spoiled brats. They always put down humans for no reason. Is this the vulcan people that we know? No. B&B are responsible for the destruction of gene's dream. I despise them. Has anyone scene the enterprise J, it is worthless bullcrap. The engines are tiny little things and the rest is the ship is one big saucer connected by a weak think lttle pice. I prefer the enterprise A to this thing. It looks ugly as heck. And what happened to all these races we never see later on, and all the races we do see later on. Klingons, Romulans, Borg, Ferengi even, they shouldn't have involved the borg, or the ferengi and perhaps not the romulans either. They should have involved the first federation members and how the klinon thing began and such.

Your right it is a pretty stupid show. I stopped watching it (partially because I don't like it and partially because I don't get UPN anymore).

I think enterprise is a great ST show. People seem to forget the with the original series was out, our special effects technology was pretty non-existant. Now that we have the technology to realistically show what it could be like in a couple of 100 years.

The fact that they were a proper earth looking uniform with a tie and shirt instead of pyjamas(sp?) and the tricorders etc look like the technology thats available to us today.

people are so hung up on the poor effects of the original series they expect enterprise to adapt the same crappy effects. Enterprise's story line is good and the special effects is what the original series should have been.

theres just no pleasing some trek fans. The special effects are good and its uncannon, if the special effects were bad they'd be complaining about that

On a whole enterpise is a more realistic and better interpretation of what it would be like if we had warp drive.

The only thing i really hate about enterprise is that horrible theme music.

I Just hate the contradictions they make with the otehr series, I dont mind the technowledgy looking better than in tos, whats more realistic, having touch panles or lots of blinkinlg lights and switches in 100 years. Hell the monters they use on enterprise are just tvs and computer screens. They could do that now on the shuttle, but nasa wont move its lazy ass.

i have noticed the contradictions. i mean the fact that they've met the kilingons etc before the federation is even thought of is a bit silly and uncannon. I was expecting this show to be the birth of the federation, exploring new world and brining all the species together as members of the federation. I dont like the whole timeline crap how they get some new enemy from the future and the guys in the federation who are policing the timeline seem nothing like the guys in voyager even though it should be EXACTLY the same guys.

The special effect though are top notch and pretty realistic. I dont understand why people are having a go that it looks like an akira class ship. Have u seen the other starfleet ships?

i found it funny that in the episode when they first go after the xindi and they aquire the new photon torpeados, they had to have it explained what photon torpeados are even though they had encountered them with the kilingons

Werent kilingons supposed to be normal looking aswel? wasn't it some sort of genetic accident? but then the episode of TNG where they de-evolve Worf still had his cornish pasty forhead when he de-evolved

I think the genetic acident made them flat, but they fixed it, some how.

Well, Enterprise in this series DOES look like an Akira with warp necels points upward. Take the Daedalus class from around the same period and look at the differance. Just the name Enterprise...would'nt the Enterprise from TOS be Enterprise-A then and would'nt the modern sovern Enterprise-E really be F? I don't even recall torpedos being orange or red that early and I thought they were white during TOS.

(http://www.ditl.org/Gengrafix/S033.jpg)
Here During the last movie (ST:6) the year is around 2280-90 way after Enterprise and they arnt even orange yet. Of course maybe they were orange for some reason and they stopped the color and they went back to them being orange or maybe the special effects guy was too lazy to make a new color.

Just my 2 cents, I'm sure theres a few things wrong with what im saying but I also think the people who made 'Enterprise' messed up alot. Of course a show 40 years later will look alot better but still seems like they gave too much technology.

Lets face it tehre is no perfect ballence unless you do a remake of tos, WICH I WANT

but they picked up a few things from the TOS. like the console, spock watched everytime and stuff like that. but the general failure is, to think that there is (or could be) a balance of the shows.

but on the other hand, i wouldn´t like to see a new TOS, cause u cant really replace the old (good) actors. even if i start laughin when i see the movies, and crappy effects, i dont really wanna see a remake. maybe a remake of the movies, but not of the series..

jus ma 2 pennys

OR just keep goin from DS9 and Voyager which they should have done, I wanna see some Enterprise-E combat.

hm.. but i wanna see the evolution of the federationships... from getting shield technology and p-torps, to phaserbanks on the hull... the upcoming war with the klingons and first contacts and war with the roms... all the stuff like this... but from the point of view, fixed and based on a time line, they should have done that crap after voyager... but if i try to imagine what they could work out... a big war with the species 8472? or upcoming dominion again? or borg bigger an bigger? i think it would be the same ever... or they could bring some stuff from older cultures in, like that stuff in the starfleet command game trilogy... like the hydrans... or the gorn... but thats all fiction of one guy sittin on his bed in germany *lol*

I would too but I'd like it even more if we could get some Enterprise-E 1 on 1 action with some Romulans and Klingons and some other scary races.

i completley agree. the soverign class is supposed to be the most advanced ship in starfleet but so far it seemed like a complete wuss in the movies and game.

has anyone else noticed that the guy who plays captain archer in enterprise is a well over the top captain kirk wannabe HUGE gaps between his words

"fire......a.....photon.....torpeado......target....their.....warp..core"
 

I disagree, being no match for the Scimitar and being able to disable it took some major guts and the sovern showed she won't be pushed around. ;)  

If TOS were too be remade by berman and barga, they would screw over trek completely. Fire them. Then get back to the future. Anounce Ent non-cannon. I'm sick of all this prequel crap. It's too hard for paramount to acomplish. I personaly think they should leave it ALONE. Voyager made peace with species 8472 so I don't think a war againts the federation with them would be such a good seiries. How about a seiries taking place outside of the federation, a romulan seiries or something. Or a seiries about a civil war that occurs in the federation after the events of nemesis. Or a seiries where the feds are cought up in a conflict between the romulans and the cardassians. Or a seiries based on a romulan civil war. Anything but another screw up prequel. I don't have a problem with the interior of the enterprise. Just the exterior, which is the old akira model with a few changes and a gold tinted paint job. Get a shuttle like ship or something. A bulky ship. A ship that cannot beat any foe.  

hm, yea.. a few interesting ideas...  

Just a thought that comes to my mind when I see that signature with the scimitar:

Nemesis was crap imho, I liked all the original movies, first contact was ok, but nemesis..lol.

The Scimitar is a complete misconception, doesnt simply fit into StarTrek.
How the heck were the remens able to build a more powerful ship then all the other empires, and how did they build its so quick?..
Where did the Technology come from? How comes the Klingons havent build such a great ship? (well actually they did: Warfs Flagship in the Mirror Ep in DS9, which was also a missconception (2km long))

And then the fact that they could fire when cloaked:
Now Imagine a movie in the Future.... a battle between some ships, all cloaked, all undetectable, thats crap.
They shouldent have tuoched the cloak: cant fire when cloaked (which is only logical, isent it?, If theres any emission from the ship, I should be possible to detect it)..

Just some thoughts .. :D

I personally liked Nemesis for it's space battle where we finally get to see the sovern 1 vs 1 duken it and it's relativly few screw-ups.

Now I can tell you something that dosent make 1 bit of sense, the Defiant class. In Star Trek, bigger has always been better so having a ship smaller then a Constitution class capable of taking on an Excelsior class just throws us in a completely differant direction. How can a warp core about 4 decks long be more powerful then a Galaxys 10 deck long core?

with a better config.. :lol:

but then it would still make no sense cause they didnnt adapt that to their bigger ships.. :D

well i think the defiant's warp core generates less power then the one of a galaxy class, but a defiant class is designed for combat and only uses the energy for its weapons and shieldings. A galaxy warpcore does also have to feed holodecks, cartography, replicators, life support for hundreds of rooms, nice lightning in every edge  ^_^  and so on

Yea, i totally agree. the defiant is designed as warship and i think the engeneers calculated that extra stuff like holodecks into the warpdrive capabilites so it is much more power resources for this size of vessel than required.

DOCa Cola

No thats not it, they say it generators more power then a Galaxy classes warp core and rivals a Soverns core. So i'm left with many questions...

maybe they put some tech on the defiant that is too big for the sovereign - i don't know :)
i just point to http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles...nt-problems.htm (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm)
an interesting article

DOCa Cola

Yeah I looked both there and ditl but they just raise more questions, neither of them can make sense of the Defiant. I think it's a Romulan plot to confuse me :mad:  

well i think u got the borg virus of TNG to destroy u while ur analysin datas :lol:

Where did they say that? :D, Ive never seen that statement..

@DOCa Cola:

Ex Artis Scientia, one of my favorite sites ;)

@Defiant:

Bigger is not better in ST.

Now the Definat is overpowerd and overgunned for its size, Its nothing more then a flying heavily armored weapons platform, unlikely any other Fed. Ship.
Now A Galaxy class for instance is way bigger, but uses most of its power on other systems than weapons Id say, It lacks the abblative Armor, the special weapons, and most importantly: The maneuverability.

...and lets think about something else: Now a sovereign class ship should have a surface way bigger then this little tiny ship, right (100times bigger, more?)?
Now the shielding around that ship has..lets say the energy output x, and lets say the defiant has the shielding energyoutput x/2, but 100 times less surface to cover.
So the shielding/area would still be 50times stronger, would it not (just an Idea *g*)
I know shields are not supposed to work quite that way, but I think that thought might have some relevance after all, since a ship has more then one shield emitter, and and you often see in the series that for instance the aft-shielding is going down....

Bigger is better in star trek, for the most part newer ships get bigger and bigger, the sovern is the longest ship ever made by starfleet. Even tho they need more shields when their larger, they also provide more space for shield generators, weapons and just room altogether.

The Defiant itself is around 100-150 meters in length to the Galaxys oh around 650 meters (not an estimate). Yet apparently a Defiant class can do heavy damage to one but in return probably be destroyed itself. This ship simply dosent make since, it's just too small in my eyes to pack the fire power it does, now if they took a ship like half the size of an Exclesior and made it a floating gun plafor then i'd agree but the Defiant is simply too small...

too small for what?
for these 2 rapidphaserbanks?
for the 1 torplauncher?
for aroundbout 80 crewmen?
 

first of all, bigger does not mean better, here's why:

1. the ship does way something, because of the gravity generators, so in affect, the bigger it is, the slower it gets

2. also the bigger the ship is, the easier it is to hit... for example... if you had a bullseye target and the point of a ballpoint pen, wich one would be easier to hit smake dab in the middle with a laser pointer?

3. the defiant does have a warpcore right? so whats the warp core producing for? replicators???? NO! medical???? NO! life support???? NO! IT"S ALL TOWARDS SHIELDS AND WEAPONS!!!! wich is vice-versa for somethign like lets say a soverign?

Well first off in star trek bigger is better because of tracking weapons, you don't miss with Phasers or most projectiles since they have advanced targeting systems.
Speed for the most part isnt an issue since you'd only be slow at sub light speeds and again, tracking weapons is all you need, not speed.

Oh, and KLOK, 4 Pulse Phaser banks, 3 torpedo launchers, and I believe a rear Phaser array :)  

3 Torpedo launchers?
Doesnt it have only that 2?  :blink: (or do you mean the deflector opening?)

About the standart phasers: 2 standart Phaser banks (one on the Forward Deflector Opening and the other on her dorsal side) , but the one on the Forward Deflector opening hase`nt been used that often..

ps: regarding the targeting systems:
thats what I though: in the 24th century they should be able to have perfect computer targeting systems, that will always hit, but on the other hand, are`nt they supposed to have highly developed ECM also?
At least it seems that way, because the Ships in the StarTrek Universe dont always hit, even with their normal phasers:
At least thats what you can see in a couple of Voy episodes, and especially in DS9, wherefore maneuverability and a low profile is a great advantage in a battle..
(If they did alyways hit, what would the evasive-maneuvers be there for? :lol: )

Sure , even with ECM a 600m long ship shouldnt be that hard to hit ,since most of the battles are fought in sub-light speed,  now the ship is quite big, and cant accelerate as fast as a small ship (laws of physics, It has a greater mass), but a 120-150m long ship, with a low profile, fast moving ... :guns:

ps: god..I hope my english isent as bad as I think it is :D

pps: even the BORG have trouble hitting the Defiant :D
(http://www.maximumdefiant.net/images/multi/visual/animated/defiant2.gif)

and hey, here you see the defiant beeing missed:
(http://www.maximumdefiant.net/images/multi/visual/episodes/theDieIsCast/theDieIsCast_turn5.jpg)

or here

(http://www.maximumdefiant.net/images/multi/visual/episodes/shatteredMirror/shatMir_68.jpg)

or how about that one
(http://www.maximumdefiant.net/images/multi/visual/episodes/defiant/defiant_battle2.jpg)

I love this ship ^^

Hey, guess what? Those are off of movies and shows, so of course thats the only ship the enemys CANT hit, think about it...

Yes there are 3 pulse fire Quantum torpedo tubes, 2 forward and 1 aft but theres only 1 Phaser bank, and then the 4 oh so loveable forward Pulse Phasers.

Again, of course during the large fleet battles in DS9 the only ship not being hit is the Defiant, because its THE Defiant. You can't let it blow up or no show...easy explaination...

Ah, your right, missed that one aft-torpedo launcher :D
btw: the the main deflector opening is also a torpedo/probe launcher.

Btw: regarding the normal phasers: according to the series there is indeed another phaser (maybe even 2):
The Forward Deflector Opening has been used as a phaser (also to launch probes
or fire torpedos), and there also could be a ventral side phaser, as seen in the voy ep. "message in a bottle", as seen here (she fires on a warbird)
(http://www.maximumdefiant.net/images/shipinfo/tvmovies/argument.jpg)..

and about the hitchances: you clearly have a point here, but that was not the only ship that has been missed, watch the little fighters in the battles in DS9, or the smaller ships, and I also recall to have seen many ep. where a shuttle, or small fast craft has been missed by phasers.

If bigger were better in ST it wouldnt be StarTrek Imho, more like Starwars..

Yeah not sure why were still talking about weapons but the 1 Phaser bank on the Defiant is a turret behind the main bridge which I believe can fire in any direction so that may be where the multible Phaser idea came from. Don't worry, even if it is the Ventral side of the Defiant firing that Phaser, Paramount, writers and special effect people in star trek like to make mistakes :lol:

Yes, I knew of the forward Torpedo/Probe launcher...

And yes the weapons CAN miss in the heat of battle, imagine trying to target 1 out of hundreds of ships in a few seconds! Even with all the technology that must be hard.

Dude I must commend you or whoever did that Paint thing with the Warbird and Defiant, good job :D  

Your right, Startrek has some flaws (pitty weve never seen the landing gear on the defiant *g*), and thats the reason why we can never be sure of anything..hell its only a movie, and its open for interpretation ;)

But I love a good hypothetical discussion  ^_^

If I recall all those timetrevel future eps. correctly, it seems like the ships arent getting bigger, but simply more high-tech.
And I suppose a ECM is a pretty good explanation why phasers dont always hit (not only in the heat of battle , there are eps. where they miss on 1on1s)

Well, your always going to go bigger, simply because of the longer missions exploring ships would be going on, potentially to other galaxies.

We arnt even sure there is landing gear on the Defiant, it says so in the handbook but never seen it but as you said we can't be sure of anything...til you see it.

i love the defiant :lol:  

And Even If we see it, It could be wrong, could be different in another Episode..

Btw: but the Ships dont need to get bigger for that,  technology does the trick in the ST universe.. Transwarp, Slipsteam, Warp10

Ships are prolly going to get bigger, maybe not, i'm not a psychic....yet...

Maybe they get bigger, who knows ,Yet small ships shall always remain! *g* ^_^  

Well, maybe shuttles=P

The season filalle killed, atleast we know  that archer is allive but in a nazi medicle tent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I liked the season finailly... dont really know what happened with ww2 stuff but its all cool, mustangs taking on shuttle craft.... :)

Hi all,

Yeah, the whole alien nazi thing is quite strange but I have to admit, its making me want to see what happens in the next season.  :) and nazi aliens rock ;)  

Nazi aliens? Looks like i'm not missing much.

They used nazis in TOS, so this is nothing really all that new but its still cool  B)  

Yeah once or twice but it was stupid then and sadly, it's popularity hasent risen...

oh well...but i still like it  :)  

I have a question what the he** are they going to do about klingons?
look at the enterprise klingons then look at TOS then look at the rest of the sceareses except on DS9 when they went back in time and Warf kinda gave an explanation

well the klingons are jus a bunch of "now-well-trained-dogs"... wit the alliance wt the feds their gettin dumb i think.. :lol: ...

i believe the klingons do have a large vessel, the 2km one.. its the Negh'Var i THINK. im not 100% certain, but the ship may have been destrotyed by the dominion in the st universe, and worf was the captain in the alternate universe..

hey what do you all think about the new serie? well.. i dont

i think it is a good idea for geting new intrest but terns off old voowers like me i think its to much droma.

but i have to say this last seson was all rite but not grate i dont like the consept. not to michan whare did this eanterprise come from never herd of a captin be for captin pike.

there is so much mistakes in it and the acting is crappy that i don't watch it. the stories aren't that goof either

but it will bring in younger voowers that the only good thing.


i am whating for the next st showe to start what ever it mite be its got to be beter. i feel like puling my ise out of my hed ok not that bad but damn close.

They should have a show where Picard retires or gets killed or something and another captain gets the Enterprise. That or Riker and Troi on the Titan.

that mite be cool i wont to see the new modal and i wont it to be in the fucher like 300 in the fucher.

would be nice if they made a klingon series :) but i think that won't happen

Of course not, thank god.

A romulan series would be cool.

or a piret series whood be cool. just some roge human that steels things and get lots of slave girl.

Slave girl... :)  

maybe one about the marquee(?) :D

well you know what happened with the maquis. so that would be a short series then

this is intresting.
William Shatner could return to the Star Trek fold this season.


According to Rick Berman in an interview for the upcoming issue of Star Trek Communicator, the fourth season will largely go back to the stand-alone episode format of Seasons 1 and 2, though there will be several "mini-arc" stories consisting of two or three episodes. Also in that interview, Berman mentions that William Shatner could return to the Star Trek fold this season. "We're hopefully going to have some discussions with our dear friend, Mr. Shatner, and perhaps come up with a small arc that will involve him," Berman said. Such discussions will be contingent on his schedule for Boston Legal, the new series Shatner is starring in this fall.

from startrek.com