Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

personally, i think starfleet can kick the romulans ass any day
 

aye so do i

moved to star trek (i think :))

not sure why it was in FR

i don't know if starfleet can do that. they fought the dominion war, are weakened, the rommies who where allies surely used the tal shiar to spy during that alliance at the feds just to see what they have . and i guess that with all those spies they could make quicte some havoc and suprize attacks if  coordinated.

especially with there intelligence networks. which the starfleet basically doesn't have

btw does anyone like my pictures? :D

yes and you have to remember use ipb code not html and don't you think section 31 would be doing the same?

well i don't think  section 31 has as near influence as the tal shiar. 31 is only a small arm talshiar is a nig office

or so they make you think.

well if section 31 was that powerfull, then starfleet whould have had more intell about teh romulans and the rommies wouldn't have been a threat at all
 

well think about it the cold war we had a big  spy net work in russia, e know what they where doing and vise verser we where still a threat to each other.

well in the cold war they both nullified eachothers intelligence out. so there wasn't a big differnce in strength.

besides, it has always been stated that the talshiar is the strongest intelligence networks of quadrant so i guess they should be good at it otherwise they wouldn't be so (in)famous.

lol the strongest is not always the best though.

i don't think you following me.

starfleet has a hard time getting info about rommies. so why is it that section 31 get the info out of it then? because the tal shiaris better in keeping secrets

and that is the advanatge, if you don't know where an enemy is going to strike, you are dooomed

well yeah i surpsoe, but i think we are going to have a steal mate her, so i think i might aswell throw in the white flag now.

fleetops junkie was right, sec 31 has more intel about the romulans than you think
 

lol fo junky is what you get when you reach a certain amount of posts and can't be asked to put in a custum title.

oops, my mistake

hey White. whats your opinion?

fed can kick rom ass in any day, right lt.cmdr. white?

hey please use the edit post mate its anoying looking at 3 posts and give somone more than 3 min to reply, TY

lumpy i suggest you stay at a good distance from us Romulans and also shut up never look us in the eye or else we are big and you are small jojoe

shhure the rommies coude take on the feds, to quote Adm Brown (one of my cahriters in my Fan Fics) "the Federation has spread to thin," witch is a disadvantage but also an adavantage, you see to taek out the Feds the rommies would ahvbe to take out all of the Fed ships and out posts, witch are stroon all over the place. An andevor to get them all would take tons or resorses, and lots of time, in that time Sec. 31 or somthing else could strike the Rommies...so inother words, the risk is high, high enough that it may out way the proffit of taking out the Feds...what do the feds have to offer? LOL

In this ST universe the feds could probably take on roms fairly easy with medium loses but in this game I haven't been beaten by a fed yet.

I think that in FO both races are capable of defeating each other, but player is the main factor in that. I didn't  lost against fed too, but in Beta2 Romulans are more powerfull then others because of the sabotage thing.

Yep, the problem with sabotage and some other balancing issues have been solved in v3.

In 'real' Star Trek i think the Federation can't take on the rommies and the rommies can't really hurt the feddies.
The Federation is not only Starfleet. There are Federation vessels, defence establishments and Starbases, too. The Federation is more then twice as large as the romulan empire (you will be suprised if you by the official Star Trek Starcharts book). Also the Romulan Military is far larger then Starfleet after the Dominion war, they can't organize a complete invasion, ause the distances would simply be to large for supplies

my 2 cents :)

Optec

yah that is true but in my opion the star empire is better cuz of their plasma torp

They got Quantums...they really wouldn't be able to attack each other, same for any other combination of the big 3 alpha quadrant powers.

they thing is they are now allieds why would they want to?

Hypothetically...

aperentlly, from what i just read, the feds and roms are too evenly matched in the normal trek universe
 

the fed fools they cannot oppose us

thats what youb think :cloak:  :borg:  :assimilate:  

:badgrin: it is what i know

I look realistically and see that the Feds have more ships, more space, and more soldiers. Then we have powerful ships, cloaks, and the element of suprise.

not only that but we are smarter we live longer and we have a much more beautiful home world

earth is paradise :assimilate:  

a peridice like my a** lok at it

even the weakest fed ship is a hazard because of photon torpedos

:assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  :assimilate:  

wow. scary.

we are the borg. your biological and technilogical distinctiveness shall be added to our own. lower your sheilds and prepare to be assimilated. your culture will adapt to service ours, resistance is and always has been...........futile

                                                               

muh ah ha ha ha ha we members of the karlack fear nothing espicaly you silly borg raze shilds and divert power from the energy turbines to mepons lets have fun in this tiny battle muh ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha LET THE HUNT BIGIN!

Tsk tsk tsk, Cairo you give roms a bad name. Both sides ships technologically are pretty much equal. While are best are weaker then the Sovern, we make up for it with the cloak.

I think the Romulan can win a local battle against Starfleet but not a War  

Roms would use hit and run tactics basically but your right, they can't fight a real war with fleet vs fleet engagements.

i agree, fleet vs fleet the rommies suck. but if they start a war the rommies have an advantage with hit & run tactics and their intelligence department

yep  :)

but as long the rom don't try to assault the fed, there will never we such a war  ^_^  

or as long as some third power suddenly switches balance  ^_^  

:rolleyes:  

it would be a steal mate i think.

i think the deal is with the rommies are their infamous tal shiar. They use that reputation to bring "fear"in other empires so they don't attack them.

I think the rommies are just laid back and let others fight their war while they enjoy the rumour about their power and mysterious tal shiar

roach, keep in mind that the cardassians obsidian order is much more insidious than
the Tal'Shiar. B)  

but this isnt about the Cards. lol i know what your saying tough i think. .lol

The Rommies are privet people but they do have alot going on, think Durros sisters.not to menchen all the tech they are makeing. think about that one, the rommulans have gone through three wars in the past i think 500 years? The Earth/Rom war, the Klin/Rom war the Fed/Dom war. some how they stayed around and i bet they are bulding up tech.

yeah soon they wwill have cloack that you can fire with  (not like you won' see where the phaser come from  anyway lol

hum...wonder if they could fire a photon torpido? have it fire out the back and loop around so its not seen?

well the obsidian order si also well known but also known is the reputatoion of the lacking power of their ships and unstable empire

the rommies don't have that

the federation has survived through alot worse than what the romulans have gone through! the feds have been at war with just about everyone, the federation has had
the borg try to assimilate them TWICE!and still survived! the federation has gone through hell and back, they got a few skrapes and bruises on the way, but they pulled through. don't forget about the U.S.S. Prometheus, the roms  stole her, but they were DEFEATED by two HOLOGRAMS! that is pathetic, plus, the holograms had some starfleet vessels as well as romulan warbirds firing at them, and still beat the roms. kind sad when you think about it. :lol:  :P  

the rommies don't have an unstable empire? ffs they change power every ten minuets!

lol ofcourse the federation is teh best if you state that. because otherwise the series would end very quickly lol.


as for an unstable empire, the rommies aren't that unstable finacially or military. only in the nemisis movie and that reflects the rommies really badly. still their rep is what they make them romulan and so powerfull.


they just need to focus teh potential power but they don't see the need as they are also couch potatoes in the sence of letting others do their businss

aye every romulan has his own scevi, even the scevi of a scevi has hes own scevi!

I think you guys are concentrating too much on military action here. The Romulans could easily wipe out the major military centers of the Federation and probably raze Earth in the process (think large antimatter bomb beamed from a phase-cloaked ship into the President's office, or emperor, or whatever he's called).

They could then effectively defend Romulan space from counterattack by using small cloaked strike groups to destroy the supply lines of any Federation fleets, which would be pretty weak anyway after the preemptive strikes.

Remember, space is 3-D, so your flanks are expanded by a factor of 4. Besides, look at the trouble we (the US) are having with supply lines in Iraq right now. Imagine if the hajjis had cloaked machine gun trucks and could drive underground.

But the point here is the Roms could never politically control the Federation, it's too much to handle. So lots of people would die and all for nothing basically.

the feds have the tachyon detection grid they developed while sela was supplying the house of duras in the klingon civil war. :shifty:  

And they have more ships, they could easily push into Romulan space and attack our trade routes and stations.

plus, starfleet does not have to worry about civil war.

Yeah they do.

Civil war?

by assainating the preator, you through the empire into chaos.
chaos results in riots.
riots resuls in marial law.
martial law results in rioters joining forces against the against the law enforcement.
rioters joining forces results in rioters gaining disruptors.
rioters gaining disruptors results in empire wide panic.
empire wide panic results in mass-meyhem
mass-meyhem results in civil war.
civil war results in the fall of the Romulan Star Empire.

there you have it. the steps to destroying an empire from the inside out.

Or..
by assainating the preator, the next guy steps up. LOL

What civil war?

oh, never thought about that. the preators succesor would take control, dangdangdangdang

a bit off topic, but who makes all those simely-faces i see on alot of posts,  

OK, could someone actually answer my question...

in anser to both civil war was hyperthethical or how ever you spell it and the smilieys are made by invision inorder to use them you must have invision installed, however afew or them where made by docacola you have to have copyright from him and you still have to have invision installed as its based on there smilieys.

I see, no civil war with me at the head i'm afraid.

thanks, cause i have a few suggestions.

which are???

like a klingon, romulan, cardassian, famous star trek characaters, ect. ect.