Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

I've heard that they maybe wont make a new star trek movie because star trek in the US starts to be less and less popular :omg:   :cry:

is this true?

Sounds likely. There's a pretty good following among trekkies for TNG reruns on cable, but the last decade of antenna TV has just been Voyager and that crap they call "Enterprise." So there aren't really any new fans.

hey enterprize is getting better...SLOWLY. lol  

well it is trowe star trek in going dawn fast. not just enterprize but star trek. the threay is that be are just geting bord of the same thing over and over. thay have thot of all the ideas thare are to think of.

a idea at paramant is to supind star trek for 1 - 2 sesons wile doing movies and lots of advertinging to bring back intrest.

i and lot of old cast mimbers from the oreganl star trek think it shood be 2-4 yeres.  its hapind be for with origanly star trek. thay supined it and than brot it back and it was populer agin.

That may be a good idea - let the concept rest for a few years and then try something new. And I mean NEW. No reused crew members, a new ship, a new setting timewise, hell, maybe an entirely new universe if it helps.

But I think nothing can save Star Trek right now, unless they get some other thinker like Roddenberry in there. If that story about J.M. Straczinky planning an own ST series were true, I'd be more optimistic. Right now, the ST stuff is pretty much in a dead end.

most young americans dont like startrek why I do not know but it is true that it is still very big here untill this genaration dies out (oh that kinda made me sad :( ).

well but Star Trek is one of the few topics which can adress people all over the world - besides starwars and lord of the rings ;). Star Trek has a big community, and there are people who like Enterprise..
If Paramount would have decided to let Star Trek die they wouldn't work on their community so hard (new websites, getting a new Star Trek Game development running after the problems with Activision, a new series..) so i think there will be a new movie. I would guess that they already started writing it, cause a good movie would be exactly what Star Trek needs at the moment.

They need a damn good movie ;)  

all movies are pritty crap except first contact

Well i always enjoyed the Original Movies, mainly the wrath of Khan and The undiscovered country, But of the recent Movies i only enjoyed First Contact and Nemesis (especially the battle sections of Nemesis) Generations was ok, but i did not like insurrection at all (after first contact i expect greater things from Star Trek movies but this was a step Backwards).  A really good movie would be great but i fear it will be like Nemesis and not bring enough people in to see it.

what i whood like to see is: star trek go in to time traval. thay will have to at some pont. make a big time jump with star trek to the entrpise R and that one will be a time ship.

I was thinking along the same lines to myself last night, either a massive leap into the future or a parallel universe, if your all familiar with the game star trek shattered universe (never played it myself though) it has a story in which the federation are the evil empire trying to control the universe and the klingons etc are the small factions trying to stop them, star trek as it is on TV is getting slightly boring so I think a drastic change in setting is needed.

all the evenly numbered movies are better than the others,

ie. first contact (6) rocks, generations (7) sucks  

Interesting theory, although it doesn't look good for the next film though (if it happens) if you look at it like that - Wrath of Khan (2)-The voyage Home (4)-The undiscovered Country (6)-First Contact (8)-Nemesis (10)

well I think the theory actualy is correct, motion picture sucks, search for spock blegh, finally frontier yuck, generations (must be the worst star trek movie ever), insurrection (is ok)

but that doesn't look good for the next movie indeed, perhaps time to break the tradition  :D  

Strange, I like The Undiscovered Country, First Contact, Wrath of Kahn and... Insurrection. One of my favourite ones because it's what Roddenberry wanted Star Trek to be. It's not about war, it's about the problems of today transferred to be reflected from the viewpoint of the future. It's storytelling. It's emotional and intellectual and partly self-ironic. It's Star Trek.

I hate Nemesis. Ok, the battle scenes are good (although they totally screwed the Sovereigns weapons... photons that look like rockets and fire from about everywhere. Huh? :huh:)...

But the Director was a plain idiot. Cutting everything that was Star Trek and adding inconsistencies. Great job.

And the worst thing: Data dies to be replaced by an android that removes years of character development. Oh really, that's great. One reason why I stick with TNG and DS9, that's entertainment.

Even though overall i enjoyed Nemesis i do agree with some of the things you say, killing data off to be replaced by a lesser character is a mistake it would of been better in my view to kill of Picard as if Partick Stuart is not going to appear in anymore movies and there isn't alot of use for him Janeway can be the main admiral and link to the federation and Riker and the titan take over as the main ship/story base.

no don't like the titan idea, i hate that data was killed however, data and his entire being is transferred in b-4,

anyway ds9 is ok but it messes up alot of things roddenberry build up, in example the fed alliance with the klingons!

Don't be dissin Wrath of Kahn or Undiscovered Country, thems some of the best. Yes Nemesis is missing quite a bit, you can see deleted scenes on DVD.

how can nemisis be a good movie? there are som many faults in it. The movie was justr eye candy and that is it. How can the moest powerfull intelligence service in teh galaxy slip through  a bomb in the senate. and why do they need a jeep in a shuttle if they can litterally land at the place where they need to be or use transporters?

and more stupid things like that

Yeah that jeep sucked ass :D

some times i feel the same whay.

but than i saw its only a movie and i look at it like that and one haw i liked it not one if the idea work or not. if i did that with star trek i whood have star trek becuss star trek is filed with eares all over it.

i like nemisis as a movie.

well personally i believe DS9 was the best of the star trek series, it had the most depth and character development in my opinion and i have seen all of tng and voy. AS far as the movies i liked all but 4,5,7 and 10. In nemesis they tried to copy the star wars battle effect as i call it. The heavy special effects and mediocer story.  as far as the decline in Star Trek popularity, its because the generations are becoming less intellectual, i mean for god sakes look at reality TV, it has to be the worst idea for entertainment ever. As far as star trek is if you just say you like it in my high school; you plunge your self into a nightmare world of ridicule from which there is no reprieve :cry: . (I love in redneck Maine. :cry:  :cry:  :cry: the average IQ is in the double digits and the only that people talk about is NASCAR (Non Athletic Sport Created Around Rednecks :lol: )

you live in maine?? SAME HERE!! Nemisis was a bad. did not like it at all. # 2 was cool and i liked Generations (that is the one with Shatner and Picard right?) thought it had a cool story line and shoot....it comes on tuesday. LMAO priceless.  

you seem not to be reading well, wrath of khan is part 2 so a good movie and the undiscovered country part 6, also even numbered movie and thus a good movie,

ds9 f*cked up alot of facts and carefully build up facts and screwed with star trek logic, altho i liked the serie alot it was just not consistent to the star trek of TOS and TNG

so i take it Cmd.Paul you love enterprise.

enterprise is not a movie, it's a serie, and the only thing I like about the enterprise is the big breasted vulcan

and dont for get she has a nice ass too.

thank god its not a movie.

Well Paul, other people said those weren't good movies, so I was defending them, maybe YOU arn't reading well :)  

then perhaps you should explain yourself better then  :P  

Hm, who said that? Can't find the post...

I would like to see some incident with Dominion in next movie.
 

I say somthing new...some race that has only been hinted at maby...like the race in TNG caspiricy, not only would thye have to find out were they are but then maby add in a morral dilema...the race needs our galexy becouse theres is comming apart. wow this could be fun. lol now as for the crew, mix them, when they relize what they have to do they take difrent captians skills and crew, Worf: Klingon leason. Picard: the one that know has diplomatic skills, Janeway: the explolrer, Scotty and gordie:engerners there are others do i need to name them? lol also for the ship, top of the line...NEVER seen bofore.

Maybe a movie where those small aliens get inside the federation leaders again and make them eat worms.

facenating

Yes, indeed.

If they are making a new movie what ship and what crew would it be about? I read that the TNG group is never going to do another one. I guess they could change their mind but I don't know ... and I don't think a movie with the Voyager crew would sell, in the US at least. I don't know about Europe. Comments?

It's Riker and the Titan, DS9, or some totally new group.

at the special features on the star trek nemesis dvd they did not say that they will not make another movie, infact patrick stewert even suggesested that there was an opening for a new movie (b-4 singing blue skies)

for DS9, they can't have sisko on it unless he is in a vision from the prophets because he was thrown into the fire caves on bajor in order to seal the pah-wraiths there forever. Dukat can not be there because sisko threw him into the fire caves with himself. Kai Winn was killed by a pah-whraith possesed dukat. and odo went back and joined the great link to cure his people from the virus that Section 31 introduced to it.

mm never saw the last ds9 episode

YOU NEVER SAW [What You Leave Behind(prt.I&II)]!!!
IT WAS ON SPIKE TV ON WEDNESDAY AT 10:00A.M. AND PART TWO AT 11:00A.M.!!!! :omg:  :omg:  :omg:  :omg:  

some of us dont get spike TV

how sad. :cry: .........yet, i don't give a d*mn

Lumby bob, shut up you insensitive, lover of romulans! JK ;)
I thought the opening for ENT season 4 was pretty good. :)  

I am so saddened  :cry: CBS has dropped enterprise from their line up and I don't get UPS guess I will just have to hope that mabey Sci-Fi gets some sence and tries to pick up the better series :cry:
But as far as revitalizing star trek I say a whole new series devoted to just after the domion war is over showing the newly found friendship between the Fedearation and the Romulan Empire, The improvement of the German image on Star Trek (They seem to keep getting re-potrayed as Nazi someone at Paramount needs to stop that) Mabey the conflict that has been brewing between the Klingons and The romulans can escalate or be resolved and this time let it focus on a real akira class  

i thot it was drifrent i gave tham a cupal of ponts for triying to think out of the box. but on the uther hand the whay this epansode was contreucted  whood have bin beter if the gramins capcher enterprise and the entrpise crowe was stuck on earth.  thay started a battle be tween the aleans and gramns that distroded entrpise by crshing it in to the wite house whare the time transporting deives shood have ben located. and you whood here a mesage saying the gremands are retreeting.

than it whood play nomaly from thare.

you mean UPN, UPS is a delivery service

how sad......yet frankly, i don't give a d*mn