Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

General => Star Trek => Topic started by: Vincent Vega on September 03, 2004, 01:43:44 AM



Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 03, 2004, 01:43:44 AM
If you could have a flagship from the Star Trek universe what would it be? :D  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on September 03, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
Being Federation, I would choose a vessel that wouldn't be recognized by the enemy as flagship immediately, nor should it be a vessel that would be first target because of it's size and power.

So Sovereigns, Galaxy class ships and (in FO) Descent class would be out of question.

It should be medium sized and fast. An Akira or Intrepid would be fine, I think.

So in fact, I would need a "battle flagship"... So a modified Akira with an above average crew would do that.

For representation, I would use a Sovereign.


 


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Sferimao on September 03, 2004, 01:51:15 PM
Flagship of The Romulan Star Empire and main command ship of Romulan 9th fleet is Maximus Warbird, D'deridex class.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 03, 2004, 02:21:19 PM
Mine would have to be the Dominion dreadgnought  :D  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 02:41:43 PM
i personaly, would have voyager as it has traveld though more galaxy than any ship (except the enter pries with the travler) than any other ship its has made first contact with more races than picard has it has surived many battles and it has also surived the borg how many ships do that?


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NCC1701Z on September 03, 2004, 03:46:36 PM
Galaxy Class starship will suffice me, I would like to say Voyager, but Voyager is just too small for the job...


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 03:56:36 PM
sup it up then, it has armour, slipstream , transwarp borg teck data on wepaongs SF has never heared of!


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Optec on September 03, 2004, 04:11:11 PM
I think i would take a Sovereign, just because it looks nice :)
If I'm allowed to chose from all races i would tend to a vorcha :) a very beautiful ship


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 03, 2004, 05:56:49 PM
If I were to have a flagship It'd have to be an Unfinished ship. Something a friend of mine made a model of but hasn't textured yet. The USS Tallace. I should get at least the untextured renders up here. Anyone do textures? Wait till I get home. I should be able to find them.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: KL0K on September 03, 2004, 06:38:38 PM
klingon: kvort bop, romulan: scimitar ( :lol: ) or raptor.. or a defiant :D


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 08:08:26 PM
imagine a ship with ever teck shown on st, every weapon X5 four worpcores so you can inject them, the best cloak ever to be invented and to hold it all off shields thst can be penatrated!
 


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on September 03, 2004, 08:13:05 PM
Dream on! ;)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 03, 2004, 08:16:04 PM
SO basically you're letting Q build a ship?


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 08:24:13 PM
basicly, but then again really speaking the borg could do it, they have assimulated atleast one ship of every kind (except premanition) and countless more!


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on September 03, 2004, 08:25:48 PM
Hey, you're saying something...

Perfect flagship = to be a Q. :D


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 08:26:27 PM
lol i will ride him bare back :P


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 03, 2004, 08:32:25 PM
Norexan for me.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain_Steve on September 03, 2004, 09:13:53 PM
being that i'm romulan in fleet ops, i'd probably pick a norexan. the new eresis (is that spelled right?) fast warbird in 3.0 would be my next pick.

considering that i'm a fed outside of fleet ops, my flagship would be the ship that i'm 'captain' of, the Sovereign class USS Saratoga NCC-75710. fast, powerful, damn good looking, and able to blast Jem'Hadar battlecruisers, the sov is the way to go in my opinion. as a flag officer in real life and looking for an inconspicious but powerful ship, an akira would be the way to go.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Yaso Kuuhl on September 03, 2004, 09:24:39 PM
An upgraded good old Excelsior class will do nicely, thank you. Just add a few of them quantum torpedoes, enhanced phasers and shields and thicker armor, and you have a nice command cruiser.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 03, 2004, 09:37:41 PM
You mean Lokota subtype? I'd take one of those too.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: DOCa Cola on September 03, 2004, 09:56:13 PM
either excelsior or romulan norexan class :)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Overlord/Zeich on September 03, 2004, 10:04:27 PM
As a feddie, I would either have an Excelsior II or an Akira.  As a romulan a Norexan.  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 03, 2004, 10:21:44 PM
Well from fed ships I would take the sovie B)  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 03, 2004, 11:51:04 PM
sticking wit hQ, i have brought a saddle now! and blinkers!


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain Defiant on September 03, 2004, 11:57:36 PM
Borg Cube for me! One from the T.V. show. BIG. :borg:  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 04, 2004, 12:01:03 AM
C.D whats the Gal destroying i don't see it lon enough


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 04, 2004, 01:07:02 AM
I'd want the regent worf's mirror universe Negh'var. 4500 meters long! :D  and enough weapons to toast a small planet :blink:  i dont care if the defiant beat it the damn ship held still.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 04, 2004, 01:58:17 AM
The Defiant could beat everything in the show...meaning it was a super ship just like in Voyager. Those ships arnt expendable like the red shirted ensigns. I'd take me a Sovern to either anyday, if I played as a fed.

@ Overlord, no such thing as Excelsior-II sadly


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain Defiant on September 05, 2004, 01:46:16 PM
Quote
C.D whats the Gal destroying i don't see it lon enough
It's a Cardassian ship...I think...


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 05, 2004, 03:36:11 PM
its a minor power ship. like some specie that starts with a T or something.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 05, 2004, 11:51:57 PM
Maybe but looks like Galor to me.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain Defiant on September 06, 2004, 01:17:54 PM
Whats with all the interest about my sig???


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 06, 2004, 02:19:21 PM
no one know what the f*** it is, its one of thoses question that no one can answer like what keeps us all on the floor? any one know :P


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [RFO]MIGHTY ROM on September 06, 2004, 02:21:39 PM
yea looks like a galor in the distance
mebe a scout


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain Defiant on September 06, 2004, 02:30:53 PM
Uh-huh. :mellow: I'm gonna change my signature soon...


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 06, 2004, 02:58:21 PM
Well it looks cool to me :lol:  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Captain Defiant on September 06, 2004, 05:16:08 PM
Thanks, but it's still gonna change.  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: RFO Cairo1 on September 06, 2004, 07:22:02 PM
aww. mine would be a norexan class the new warbird ha ha ha feel my disruptors


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on September 06, 2004, 07:29:03 PM
Wee, you're tickling me! ;)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: RFO Cairo1 on September 06, 2004, 07:33:24 PM
oh sorry the setting was on -3 (didant see that comming)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: coolhandab on September 07, 2004, 02:14:36 AM
Gotta have a fleet command and diplomatic ship, and a battle command ship, so for Fed a Galaxy for diplomacy and shift my flag to a Defiant for battle. Between the PPCs, ventral and dorsal Type X phasers and double burst quantum torpedo tubes it would hold its own just fine.

As a Romulan: Tavara (or Norexan refit). No question.

I wouldn't dare sail in a Sovereign, those things attract fire like moths to a flame.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 07, 2004, 09:15:01 AM
lol thinking of your old sig cd the enterprise was doing a hit and run lol


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 07, 2004, 11:44:46 PM
I finally found the pics of my flag ship. Sadly the Model has been lost, and it's untextured. But I have a link to it.

Tallace Pics (http://www.the-tcs.net/box//index.php?showtopic=1463)

It's my bud's site, he's the white loving freak. Pardon his nick and such.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 08, 2004, 12:41:40 AM
Mmmm, nice and uncanon, just the way that makes me sick. I'll be in the bathroom.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 08, 2004, 01:42:48 PM
Don't be jealous!


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: KL0K on September 08, 2004, 03:13:37 PM
whos jealous? :huh:
 


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 08, 2004, 03:20:49 PM
He had said he's hurk cuz it's not a cannon ship. Some people can't use thier imagination when it comes to ships. Sometimes non-cannon ships are kooler than what's there. Some ships are design for specific things is all. I happen to think the Tallace is a good ship. I'd call her my own anyday.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 08, 2004, 04:08:55 PM
it looks nice, and defiant, all ships are uncannon tostart off with, if i showed you a pic of one of the many exapmles of the gal class you would call them uncannon but they are  still ST, you need to expand on the range of ships, i erpsonaly like non cannon, ie this ship and a few others the discovery suck monkey dick (JK white :P)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 08, 2004, 07:04:38 PM
I agree with DEFIAN though, cannon rules B)  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: KL0K on September 08, 2004, 07:08:06 PM
i dont understand what your talking about... wtf is cannon and uncannon? plz explain it for somebody who heard this word a few times but didnt understand it... :lol: :blink: :lol:


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on September 08, 2004, 07:18:08 PM
First it's canon, not cannon. It's the same word as "singing canon", meaning the same song starting at different points of time (for example "Row, row, row your boat").

I don't know if this saying is common in English, too, but in German you sometimes say: "That fits to the canon." meaning it fits to the general attitude of a group of people concerning the same topic.

So in fact, canon means in this case, that it's "official" because it has either been stated by the people who make Star Trek but more so if it has been seen either in an actual TV series or movie.

Sometimes it's also called conjectural and non-conjectural if talking about things that have been designed by people from the show but not actually been used.

So, canon is generally everything that can be seen in released movies and series while non-canon stuff is everything else, especially everything fan-made.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: KL0K on September 08, 2004, 07:43:14 PM
thanks a lot for this explanation :)


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 08, 2004, 08:25:46 PM
Yes Eufnoc everything the designers make in the beginning is not canon, but once it's in the show it's considered canon. This ship, being an ugly ass kitbash, dosen't appeal to me design wise already, and the fact it was never in a show leaves me wondering why we couldn't use all those ships first, then make them up.

TanEdos, don't worry i'm not jealous.

And thank you white for your nice little correction/I TOLD YOU explanation.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 08, 2004, 08:55:16 PM
hehe, so that ship IS NOT CANNON :P  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 08, 2004, 08:57:25 PM
please, i give not a sh*t wether it be cannon or non, its what appeals to you and sorry i just got out of a AP world History class (college level) but im a sophmore in high school. I AM NOT BRAGGING ABOUT MY INTELLEGENCE! ^_^  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: TanEdos on September 08, 2004, 09:44:31 PM
I still like the ship. You don't have to like her, you're opinions are your own. I know I wont be called to fly her in any fleets of yours while She's commissioned. Cannon Ships are ok, but I like the unconventional aproach to some things. Is all.  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on September 08, 2004, 11:27:05 PM
yeah same here


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on September 09, 2004, 09:07:53 PM
Oh by all means do what you want with it, I simply stating I perfer canon ships. These forums are basically for opinions on things and I state mine without reservations.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on September 10, 2004, 02:27:53 PM
true B)  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 10, 2004, 10:04:13 PM
Absolutely correct, this is an opinion based forum and i wouldn't have it any other way. Now... let the river dancing monkeys begin! (I need one hell of a long vacation... :blink: )


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: RFO Cairo1 on September 11, 2004, 05:36:09 AM
Yah you do
 


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 30, 2004, 01:56:56 AM
WELL DAMN DID IT FIZZEL OUT? SOMEONE POST SOMETHING DAMNIT! I SHALL BE IN THE SHADOWS...... WAITING...... FOR MY MICROWAVE PIZZA TO FINISH!
 :ph34r:  MUWAHHHAHAHAH!!!! [COUGH] [COUGH] [HACK] [SPIT] [REGURJUTATE'S ORGANS] IM ALL BETTER....


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Cmd.Paul on September 30, 2004, 02:51:02 AM
My flagship would be the USS Dordrecht (Dordrecht Class) a design of my own

but for an "excisting class" I would use the sov or the defiant


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 30, 2004, 09:36:52 PM
well, thats a good start ^_^ . I would definetly have a Negh'Var, i love everything about that ship. ANd the underslung 'siege' disruptors or torpedo launchers are just the coolest weapons in the klingon empire. :D  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: OMEGA on September 30, 2004, 10:20:20 PM
I'd have to go with the timeless classic the bird of prey or maybe the more mordern Kvort class, i've always perfered smaller faster ships, theres more tactics involved to use them.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on September 30, 2004, 10:43:27 PM
good, i like the bird of prey too, however th kvort's large size makes it unmanuverable or at least the cannon version of the ship.
PS I JUST BEAT DOOM3!!!!!! no cheats :D  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: coolhandab on October 01, 2004, 04:31:47 AM
The only proviso on smaller ships is that they're easily destroyed. I fully appreciate the role a saber or bird of prey or any small destroyer in espionage, scouting, hit and run etc. but they're no flagship. In fleet battles tin cans (slang for destroyer, in at least the American Navy) die and die fast.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Vincent Vega on October 01, 2004, 11:57:04 AM
yes they do and such pretty explosions they make. :D  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 01, 2004, 02:50:21 PM
lol...I would take the Carpathia class, but thats on that i made. lol i would post the specs but i dont know were to. lol but for a canon ship...Ambasodore or Akira  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: 8472pinkblobs on October 04, 2004, 07:26:59 PM
My Flagship if it diddn't have to be real would be a large gelatious opaqe pink-blob.

it would have extreemly fast regenerative abilities. Bio Engineered weapons. and immunity to bioweaopns and borg nanoprobes (even "enhanced" ones.)

There is one other ship i might have but its too hard to explain


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Atlantis on October 04, 2004, 08:48:02 PM
Well let's see.

It'd have to be the Excelsior, or Excelsior Refit (Ent-B style) for me, or a small Tal Shiar ship, a Shrike perhaps.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: NieKnight on October 04, 2004, 11:27:15 PM
kl nice to have u back doug!


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: RFO Cairo1 on October 05, 2004, 12:30:34 AM
is your Dordrecht Class a diffient class? that is what it looks like mine as I sais earlyer either a Norexan or a speicaly disigned and re fit battlecruser but of my own disign i would take my moble fotracr Amedues behold (it is bacicaly a reble blockade runner refit but it is huge here look) you cant see it very well and you can see my old fleet now it is up dated. :D ok hang on it is not  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Cmd.Paul on October 05, 2004, 03:38:32 AM
it's a design of my own, i have someone working on a basic model right now since I can't do that myself,

as i said earlier, i can only think of things with star trek can't do modeling and stuff by myself


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lumpybob on October 13, 2004, 01:17:32 PM
my personal flagship would have to be a prometheus class.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Fullphaser on October 15, 2004, 09:35:04 PM
heh... I would have to go with the Krenim time erasing ship with an almost station like set of conventional weapons and a very nice temporal erasour suddenly I erase the shipyards and thus no enemy fleets. silly yes but hey anything to win  B)  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lumpybob on October 16, 2004, 01:51:12 AM
the kremin temporal warship was destroyed by voyager in the episodes
[Year of Hell (prt. I&II)] B)  :assimilate:  :cat:  :fox:  :badgrin:  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 16, 2004, 05:23:53 AM
not olny that it was errased from time.  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: 8472pinkblobs on October 16, 2004, 06:57:53 PM
so. what if things go bad and he decides to build a time ship AGAIN.
or what if somebody else screwes up the timeline and brings back the timeship.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 16, 2004, 07:55:24 PM
Danials shows up. lol


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lumpybob on October 19, 2004, 04:27:51 AM
starfleet temporal investigations destroys it


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: 8472pinkblobs on October 19, 2004, 05:24:23 AM
what if temporal investigations is removed from existance before they can.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 19, 2004, 05:48:14 AM
dont think that would happen becouse the ship dose not know of the temprol agents yet, and if they did they would have to get to the home worldby the time they did the Agent would have assasinated him, also if they sent 2 agens, one from two difrents worlds they would have a better chance. then you ahve the thing we saw in First Contact, were earth was a similated but the enterpize was not...therfor if the agent was in the past there is a chance he would not be afected.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lumpybob on October 20, 2004, 04:32:45 AM
no, when the krenim temporal warship eradicates a races homeworld, that race is erased from all time and it is like that race never existed. so, an agent in the past would be ineffective.


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 20, 2004, 05:15:06 AM
LOL paridoxes. lol cant explane this one out in typing. lol you could veery well be right. LOL  


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: 8472pinkblobs on October 20, 2004, 05:38:59 PM
Quote
dont think that would happen becouse the ship dose not know of the temprol agents yet, and if they did they would have to get to the home worldby the time they did the Agent would have assasinated him, also if they sent 2 agens, one from two difrents worlds they would have a better chance. then you ahve the thing we saw in First Contact, were earth was a similated but the enterpize was not...therfor if the agent was in the past there is a chance he would not be afected.
But what if he found out about temporal investigation. or removed it from time becasue temporal investigations doesn't know about him


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: [F-I-I]VAdm-MJP on October 20, 2004, 06:09:51 PM
like i said two confusing for me to type out. lol


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: 8472pinkblobs on October 20, 2004, 09:28:56 PM
yep

paradoxies = confusion


Title: Whats Your Personal Flagship?
Post by: Lumpybob on October 21, 2004, 02:42:27 PM
pre-destination paradoxes