Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

During fights, officers and other personel have only their uniforms. without only protection against phaser fire. It would be strange that they have phasers but nothing to an officer from phaser fire.

I wouldn't be a ground troup between a phaser fire fight in the Star trek, it's just a matter of how many men you trow in a battle with phasers  

The only real protection against Phaser fire is energy shields, and I don't think most alpha quadrant races use or even have personal energy sheields so the only other choice is to carry alot of firepower and try not to get into a conflict.

actualy u thunk they could come up with a personal shield for ppl
would be so cool,u  get hit 15 times and sields at 75 percent and yer still advancing lke the borg :assimilate:  

They have them for engineering teams (to go into dangerous areas and fix stuff), so why shouldn't they have them for security teams?

well they should have shield because why would someone make a gun but not something to protect it from. it's like the first knight without his armor

well actually.. the first knight were wearin stuff to protect themselves... remember the samurai.. and i still got some things in mind like bulletproofvests... a shield would be something to think about... but i think the producers never thought of such things... or it would be too much against the TOS series, like the thing that they didnt land on planets but beamin, just bcause of the high prices for animations... i dont know...

At least Elite Force and Elite Force II know personal shields. ;) As do the Borg. :D

Also, I think we never saw true ground forces in ST except the few Marines in Enterprise (though I haven't seen the Episodes yet... damn Sat.1! ;)).

Mostly it was usual Starfleet personnel engaged in fights. Another possibility could be that usual armor wouldn't be effective against phasers and things alike. So, why waste energy for it.

Another thing is perhaps that Star Trek was originally meant to be rather "pacifistic", so why should Starfleet personnel look so martial?

Well, one of the many riddles Roddenberry left us...

lol i am good at those questions without an aswer... lol

but you are right at one thing, Roddenberry made stratrek pascifistic or atleast the federation.

actualy many samurai wore armor Ronin did not but this is off topic so...

It's stupid, they should just have lil sheild genoraters around thier waists. It wouldn't be as noticable as a phaser in it's holster or a rifle in thier hand.

You never see them with that technology tho, I never said that they did have it and i've never seen anything in the movies or show. Why didn't they shield that ground vehicle in Nemesis that Picard rode in?

Starfleet engineers, they make good stuff but they gotta shield everything.

yes personal shielding
its  verry  cool
pop
HEY! WATCH WHERE U AIM THAT THING!
*computer*shields at 97% :lol:  

Well i've been looking at the ds9 eposides and there was an alien race from the gamma quadrant that huts someone called tosk. and when they first arrive at the station they have some weird personal shields

i think i remember the toskfrom voyager, or a book or something but thAT NME RINGS A BELL -_-  :hmmm:  

u mean that predator race like in voyager? it had a shield too if i remember right...

Tosk, became a good friend of O'Brien after O'Briend helped to repair his ship, the Episode is called "Captive Pursuit". The hunters wore some kind of helmets also.

Further info:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/seri...sode/68094.html (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/DS9/episode/68094.html)

(http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/ds9-406-tosk-s-hunters-board-d/240x320.jpg)

You guys know nothing... :D

Here, look, it's me with the hunter ;):

(http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/ds9-406-the-hunter-confers-wit/240x320.jpg)

thanks changeling, that is what i meant,

But those guys look like they are from captain proton in my eyes lol or from TOS

Thats why I said no major alpha quadrant powers have them...

If Starfleet cares about lives so much, why don't they sheild security teams. Idiots. :mad:  

Star treks ground battle realism leaves a lot to be desired. Their uniforms screem "SHOOT ME" The only armor I can remember was in Star Trek 6: The undiscovered country, the security teams had a sort of protective vest and some sort of head gear but it looked rediculous, like a combination of something an umpire would wear at a ball game and an old football helemet (the leather ones) Cadarsians sort of have armor I guess, klingons do, and so do jem hadar, and borg, but the federation is left with uniforms that cry out for attension and no body armor whatsoever. Personal sheilds, that might be a good idea but I'd prefer to see armor and people not taken down in one shot from a hand phaser. It's like in star wars, the one shot rule always prevails on non important characters. If u aren't a lead roll, that armor is crap  

i think the milatry personel in enterpise are neet sorta. thay need beter wepinds some thing starfleet oferser dont have. like foltonic grands and many a ani are wepin for shooting dawn fiters.

for armer shelds whood make more sins to me than armer. klingons whare armer. starfleet whers p.j.

Really, if you did not know anything about Starfleet and you beamed aboard one of their ships, you'd think they were having a pajama party! :lol:  

They don't have energy shields for the most part, so trying to use something you don't have JUST DOSEN'T WORK, right captain?

Right. :hmmm: Get a dead Borg drone and take it's shield thingie, make more of them and put 'em on Starfleet personnel. And why doesn't Seven make some Borg shields for the crew of Voyager?  

well seven's shield implant is removed. but that was reactivated once by the borg signal from the crashed raven

well star flet has sinatise and engaers i sher thay can figer out some thing.

*Cough* Starfleet! *Cough* Idiots! Oh, sorry there, had a little cough.  :D  

But the thing is they don't have personal shields...

Get them! :mad:  

yes ser. lol

But THEY DON'T HAVE THEM, am I getting thru?

LOL, what DEFIANT is saying I think is that they dont have the technology to create them yet B)  

Yeah, I thought I made that clear 5 posts ago. You can't make fun of them feddies for something they never had or used.

Well I said, GET THEM FROM THE BORG!!!!!!

B U T  T H E Y  H A V E N 'T  Y E T!!!

WELL THEN ORDER SEVEN TO MAKE THEM!!!!! :mad:  

See your not even making sense, theres no proof the Federation or any major alpha quadrant powers have personal shields, so stop saying they do.

She dont know how :P  

well, she was borg! she can remember a lot of stuff!

Well the borg drones dont know everything, they only know what they need to know, depends on what their function is in the collective B)  

Drones share one mind, it is impossible for drones to not know someting that other drones know.

Well she might not remember then or nobody asked her about that, now drop the subject THEY JUST DONT HAVE PERSONAL SHIELDS :hmmm:  

FINE!!!! :mad:  

They don't have personal shields, they don't have armor, and they run around in brightly colored cloth uniforms. Does it make any dang sense? No, it's just poor costume design and writing that follows the usual 1 hit kills unimportant characters or characters that are meant to die quick. Important characters can take dozens of shots without going down. Some are just plain phaser resistant. Why do they need armor when they have plot supersheilds

Wow. :mellow: This guy said a lot in one post then we said in...a lot. Wow.  

well, i just watched star trek VI last night on Spike TV and when two security guards showed up after a phaser was fired aboard the Enterprise-A, they had a flak jacket like body armor and helmets on. the security guards in the earlier movies had armor and helmets too. they never got shot at though so the armor's effectiveness is unknown. it must have done something though for them to wear it.

They dont have armor because
Num. 1= Theres no point! a phaser set in Setting 7 (enough to kill a humanoid) could probalby blast through duranium and theres absolutely no point in armorx
Num. 3= They only make the troops less agile against the enemy
Num. 3= The armor costumes will probalby cost too much

star fleet duss not use munny so cost duss not apliy

remember that there is no money in the federation needed?  :rolleyes:  

I think he might be talkin about the cost for the show. If they had to have amor for everyone, it would've been stretching the budget.

I meant on the 21st Century, the costumes will cost too much, a phaser rifle costs like 400 U$ so how mcuh u think arming like 10 security officers will armors will cost?

why do you have two number 3's???

My bad.. ;)  

Hmph. Well, it's a lot of moolah either way.

Oh, and might I suggest 5 year old math?

If you remember in the DS9 episode where ODO and Sisko went back to earth the admiral made a comment about that they stockpiled weapons and persoonal shield generators wich we never saw used in action.

STAR TREK!!!! YOU'D BETTER START SHOWIN ARMOR!!!

TNG screwed us over...

picard get hair :hmmm:  :P  

Patrick Steward(Picard) was dissapointed at the fans reaaction for the last ST movie(nemesis) and he said he will never be in another ST movie again :cry:  

lol his loss.

true :lol:  

I heard Nemesis did well in Europe. Or was that a lie?
 

Well it never came in Slovenia :(

lol :lol:  :lol:  :lol: oohaha :lol:  

pore giys no star trek thare haw do you live?

I think they have DVDs. ;)

Poor people, they don't get to see it until it comes out on DVD. SUCKERS!!!!!!

i got lke 200 dvds in 2 black protected carry cases
estimated value?-$3000 each one for $15 at sams club

You got a lot of DVDs. :lol:  

Well I have the movie about the same time u do ;) , emm there are other things than DVDs ;)

Yep, me 2. :blush:  

Well these "secret CDs" are available all over internet ;) :D

Oh...pirating. :pirate:  

u said it not me  :lol:  :P  

Riiiiiiiight. ;)  

piracy has bad rez and stuff

Quite someone i'll call Mr O  :ph34r:  borrowed Finding Nemo & King Arther of a m8 pirated with terrible picture quality and the sound quality was a joke, best avoided.

Yep, piracy is BAD.

yea, piracy is bad... and robin hood too... think about it - its ironic ;)

Steal from the rich and give to the poor :D

Robin Hood helped people though. For a good reason.

try to explain "helping for a good reason" or "good reason" aswell.. when ppl dont got enough money, i think its a good reason ;)... so i think crackin is a "kind of help" :lol:

lol, a nice way to make somthing thats illegal legal :D

What does body armor have to do with robin hood? :D  

get shot by his arrows without heavy armor and u know why :lol:

So true.