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Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 17, 2004, 11:34:50 AM I think that ships should slowly gain speed in Fleetops and not be at top speed in 1 maybe 2 seconds, thats just not cannon, and plus it would make hit and run tactics much more effective. ^_^
Title: Speed Post by: Sferimao on July 17, 2004, 12:12:13 PM Yep, this would be OK.
But if I may upgrade your speed idea. It would be realy great if you can control each ship's speed with somekind of control button. For example you have a fleet of many ships, and you command them that they go to speed 4. And when you move them they go with different acceleration (original Founder's idea) untill they match that speed 4 and move with same speed. That way if you move them to the far far position, your fleet won't get separated which can be very unfortunate for you . :D Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 17, 2004, 12:18:22 PM I like both ideas although not sure if controlling the speed is necesary, seeing as how I want everything going fast and your fleets should be moving at the same general speed anyway.
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 17, 2004, 12:22:52 PM Well same general speed yes, but they shouldn't get that speed in a sec, this would be potencionally perfect for hit and run attacks
Title: Speed Post by: Sferimao on July 17, 2004, 12:23:16 PM That is the idea actualy. I wan't that my fleet can move with same general speed.
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 17, 2004, 12:24:01 PM They already do for the most part.
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 17, 2004, 01:34:26 PM I did a typo :blush: it said should where it was supposed to say shouldn't :blush:
Title: Speed Post by: cts006 on July 18, 2004, 07:34:26 PM Controlling speed is realy only important in games like bridge commander and starfleet command, the only thing id recomedn would be a temporary speed boost on one ship per race. Thats why i lke the monsoon(ithink) when fed for hit and run beacuse fleets can go in atack and get out fast for repairs.
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 18, 2004, 08:31:17 PM Look lets build a scenario, a lonely Norexian warbird is flying to the other romulan base in full speed, but then suddenly 5 ktingas appear and shoot at the warbird, because the warbird was at full speed and the ktingas attacked her from behind she couldnt fire back due to the arc restriction and she also couldnt chase them just because she would have stop and then turn around but by then the ktingas would be far gone.
So now the norexian shields are at 50% and because the ktingas also fired their special weapon at her 50 of her hull points are missing 2. And non of the 5 ktingas were lost :D . See this is just an example for how this would work, and u would be forced to escort bigger ships or they would get attacked by little ships B) Title: Speed Post by: KL0K on July 18, 2004, 11:06:40 PM now i like that idea... never thought of things like that... ;) :D
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 18, 2004, 11:26:25 PM Norexans have rear torpedo launchers as well as a Disruptor or 2 if I can remember but point taken.
It's just that would have everything on full sheed anyway, and in space ships with larger engines would go faster then ships with smaller engines just it takes them a little bit longer. Title: Speed Post by: cts006 on July 19, 2004, 07:37:02 AM Founder that explanation made no sence in how controling the speed of a ship would be of use.
Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 19, 2004, 12:24:15 PM i understood it, basicly he was saying the wb was going at full speed one way,itgets attacked from behind (they retreate) by the time its stopped to turn aroun and chase them they are gone and the WB has 50% damage.
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 19, 2004, 12:25:28 PM Nice to have ships turn slow, like 10 seconds on the movies, even the most manuverable ones.
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 19, 2004, 12:27:10 PM The maximum speed in space depends on how fast your propellant goes and how long your fuel lasts.
Remember: The longer your engines burn, the fast you go. But if you switch them off, you won't become slower, as there is no air in space (no friction). The size of your engines in comparison with the mass (because of the inertia) of your ship just changes the acceleration, that is how fast you will reach a certain speed. For example, a rocket motor will accelerate you in a relatively short time to a few thousand km per hour. Then your fuel runs out and you stay at that speed. An ion engine has not that much power, you won't accelerate as fast. But as the ions are flying with a much higher speed, you theoretically can get near light speed, if you just have it running long enough. (I would appreciate someone correcting possible mistakes in my explanation, should there be any. ;)) Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 19, 2004, 01:01:05 PM Wow I didn't see that comming, and it's not like you've said that before either...Especially when that explanation wasen't needed.
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 19, 2004, 01:15:45 PM Quote FA DEFIANT,Jul 18 2004, 11:26 PM] in space ships with larger engines would go faster then ships with smaller engines just it takes them a little bit longer Just wanted to point out that you twisted it a little bit. ;)size in comparison to the ship => different acceleration type of propulsion => different maximum speed Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 19, 2004, 02:00:17 PM Look all I want is for ships to accelerate a bit slower and that they dont turn instantly and thats it B) and this idea would be pretty useless if they wont realize the ship arc idea 2, so do either both ideas or non :)
Oh and BTW in that scenario I ment kvorts and not ktingas, cause of their special weapon, sorry about that :blush: Title: Speed Post by: cts006 on July 19, 2004, 09:59:30 PM Theroreticaly left running long enough an ion engine shoudl accelerate to lightspeed as it is an actual speed. The problem is that would the ship/engine be ripped apart by the speed, lets look at this no friction no resistance no reason for it to go flying apart.
Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 20, 2004, 12:54:36 AM unless u hit a dust cloud, or a planet, or cts's mum!
Title: Speed Post by: cts006 on July 20, 2004, 01:19:35 AM Or you curl up and die infront of it.
Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 20, 2004, 01:21:06 AM i take it you don't like her then?
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 20, 2004, 02:44:19 AM Good god white, I don't want to understand, just want ships to turn slower. TOO MUCH TO ASK?
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 20, 2004, 09:23:48 AM You don't have to call me God... except if you are a Vorta or a Jem'Hadar, then it would be ok. ;)
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 20, 2004, 10:22:45 AM A fellow Founder?? ^_^
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 20, 2004, 10:48:42 AM You'll have to wait for the final episode for this to happen. ;)
PS: 300th post, nice Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 20, 2004, 11:12:45 AM Your not god, your SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN!!!!!@!!!
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 20, 2004, 11:18:09 AM Satin? That shiny fabric used for women's night gowns and underware (and other clothing)?
Strange... http://www.fabrics.net/colpics/satin.jpg (http://www.fabrics.net/colpics/satin.jpg) PS: And I was wondering, why he is so aggressive towards me... Why the **** did noone tell me that TMP Rules changed his name? :D May I have a new one, too? "Odo" for example... or "Changeling" or something like that would be fine. ;) Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 20, 2004, 12:14:29 PM Well then if u like the dominion join the dominion clan.
Look on online gaming for more info B) And defiant why do u use a quote from 1 of our soldier as a signature, is that a sign of traitory, respect or maybe even fear :P Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 20, 2004, 12:51:39 PM I used it because it's not even a quote from star trek, look closely.
And white, your the DEVIL. Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 20, 2004, 02:45:14 PM Well maybe b4 u ment SATAN and not SATIN :rolleyes:
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 20, 2004, 03:30:15 PM Look, what I said was self explanatory. I'm not gonna be embarrased for you being an idiot :D
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 20, 2004, 05:58:03 PM It wasnt self explanatory until u said hes a devil so u had to give us a hint that he wasnt a fabric from what woman underwear is so u are kind of an IDIOT, u know that button above your post that says EDIT if u push that u can actually change what u have written b4 ;)
Now thats just magic isnt it :P :P Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 20, 2004, 06:50:50 PM wow!
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 20, 2004, 07:02:28 PM The condition is deteriorating, next time ill just shoot him ;)
We need v3 to prevent further hostilities B) Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 20, 2004, 08:51:17 PM It is self explanatory, I mean you have to be a 3 year old not to understand. So stop being a Founder and attempt the understand simple english...
Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 20, 2004, 08:57:09 PM However, we may make fun of your typos, especially if the misspelled word gets a completely new meaning. ;) And for someone who is familiar with the French pronounciation of "satin", the first thought that comes about is the fabric, not the fallen angel Lucifer.
Remember, you're not ewm90. It's not his fault if he spells something wrong. PS: Now I know why the Founders wanted to bring order to the galaxy by force. Otherwise, people simply don't understand it. :D Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 20, 2004, 09:45:12 PM lol the rom clan are strange ( i like strange ) but the founders are even more stranger and are funney aswell, plus they take the piss out of tmp so i think i will join them in V3, unless theres a more stranger and funney clan out there?!
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 21, 2004, 12:17:01 AM lol, I know I was wrong, but what i'm trying to get is why ANY OF YOU CARE?!
SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN SATIN :P :D ;) :) Title: Speed Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 21, 2004, 10:55:48 AM Because it was funny? Ever thought about that possibility? Hm? ;)
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 21, 2004, 01:53:46 PM Well I just like 2 piss u off B) :P :P
Title: Speed Post by: PREATOR DEFIANT on July 21, 2004, 02:55:51 PM You can't piss me off, i'm me ;) Resistance is futile...
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 21, 2004, 03:19:33 PM And I thought u were a pasionate romulan :rolleyes: :P
Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 21, 2004, 03:40:32 PM lol he was just assimulated!
Title: Speed Post by: -=B!G=-The Black Baron on July 21, 2004, 05:31:52 PM Poor old guy :lol: :D :lol:
Title: Speed Post by: NCC1701Z on July 21, 2004, 06:24:33 PM May the Obsidian Order butt in?
Title: Speed Post by: NieKnight on July 21, 2004, 06:32:02 PM maybe
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