Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations

Fleet Operations => Technical Stuff => Topic started by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 01:12:43 AM



Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 01:12:43 AM
Hey guys ok my computer is running on windows ME and i can't play beta 2 without it being at half graphics and low res i can do it with high resoulution but it kinda pushes my computer over its limits well back to the topic i was thinking of upgrading to Windows XP straight from ME because i don't want to waste money on another expensive computer now would upgrading XP from ME solve this graphical problem and make beta 2 run better and i also want it to run beta 3 because beta 3 will have even more complex graphics so Would upgrading to XP From ME solve my graphics problem i no that buying a new computer would be the best way but would it work if i just upgraded i no you can from ME but i don't wanna upgrade for nothing someone please give advice reason why im not puttin my specs is because if Upgrading won't do anything it won't matter because all my drivers are up to date and i will just save up for a new computer so i can just get the latest technology and not have to worry about this im just seeing if theres a less expensive route to correcting this problem all i need is a simple yes or no to make life simple cause im no computer wiz here


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 17, 2004, 01:57:01 AM
Long awnser:
Well, ive noticed that XP increases the stability of fleetops much over ME, but depending on your specs, doesnt sound too good, You probably should be looking at upgrading or buying a new computer. If an upgrade id say upgrade Ram,Processor and Grafpics card.

Short awnser: NO


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 17, 2004, 09:34:55 AM
And what is more:

XP will most certainly need a better system to do the same task just as fast as Win98/ME etc. do. XP needs more ressources, even without running additional software. (I'm wondering if MS has a contract with Intel...)

For example: The thread "How does FleetOps run on your system?" has shown that anything over 256MB RAM is good for FO on Win98/ME systems while XP users need about 512MB RAM.

So, updating your PC from ME to XP will probably have the opposite effect of what you want.

Buying new hardware would be the better choice.



My shorter answer is: No, stay with ME for the time being.

My shortest answer: No.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: DOCa Cola on July 17, 2004, 09:49:34 AM
i think it would be best if you could attach a dxdiag, so we can tell you more about what would be recommended with your system

could you please go to Start - Run type dxdiag click OK, then, on the bottom of the program, click Save All Information... save the file and attach it to the forum please

DOCa Cola


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: KL0K on July 17, 2004, 02:06:25 PM
i prefer WinXP... no matter what system specs.. cause Win ME is just bullshyt...
btw. u CANT update WindowsME with WinXP... WindowsXP is an NT based OperatingSystem, so u need to format the partition, switch it to a NTFS partition, and install it on that clean partition...


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: Sferimao on July 17, 2004, 02:22:45 PM
NO! :D  


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 02:37:23 PM
Heres my specs or what i can best give u

RAM:512 MB
Processor: Pentium 3 Processor GenuineIntel 1000 Mhz
Virtual Memory: 32 bit
File System: 32 bit
Graphics Card: Nvidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64
RAM Available: 262.67(is there anyway to free up more memory?)
Virtual Memory: 2.00 GB
Virtual Memory Available: 1.57 GB


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 17, 2004, 02:41:47 PM
Buy a decent graphics card and FO should run just fine.

I have:

PIII 933MHz
384MB RAM
GeForce 4 Ti 4200
Windows ME

No problems with FO.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 02:48:21 PM
i just added some more specs for all you guys i was thinking maybe upgrading to XP and getting some new hardware because of the demand of resources xp would need.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 17, 2004, 03:13:21 PM
As I said, XP would make it worse.

The graphics card is your bottleneck. In fact, it is the only reason why you have problems with FleetOps. The TNT2 is a little bit too weak for it.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 03:15:41 PM
should i see if i can upgrade it or should i juat buy another graphic card seems like buyin a graphic card is the best way to go


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: Lt.Cdr.White on July 17, 2004, 03:19:23 PM
Almost any graphics card on the market will do, even if it's an older one.
The TNT2 is simply outdated. Upgrading won't be possible, as it is the processor and the driver design which are too old. Adding more memory to the card (if possible) wouldn't help.

Get a Radeon or a newer GeForce card and everything should be fine.
 


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 03:27:40 PM
alright so i rly don't even need xp for my problems that saves me money


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: KL0K on July 17, 2004, 03:32:20 PM
yea, and u can get some radeon like 9100 9600 (always the PRO version or XT or how its called today) and them geforce4(but DONT BUY the MX-series) an higher at really low prices at some places...


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 17, 2004, 03:36:53 PM
Thx for everything guys probelms was only my graphics card  :rolleyes:  


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 17, 2004, 08:21:29 PM
A plain numbered version of a card is okay just dont get an SE for radeons.!!!!!! But I personaly hate ME and would rather run windows 2000, but since I have XP and XP just likes me im gonna stick with it.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 18, 2004, 04:08:43 AM
Hey guys i actually just upgraded my drivers for my Nvidia graphic card and now i got Nvidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64 Pro and this actually had a huge affect on the gameplay and now i can run the game on high res with 3/4 graphics smoothly but im still gonna get a new card cause when beta 3 comes out this upgrade will mean nothing and beta 3 is gonna need more power from the graphics card which my out of date one probably can't support but i can get alot out of an out dated card lol


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 18, 2004, 07:24:22 PM
Thats a prety old card tho so you shoudl definatley upgrade anyway.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 18, 2004, 10:05:17 PM
Yea i went out today just too look at some new cards some are expensive but most are pretty affordable


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: KL0K on July 18, 2004, 10:56:12 PM
look out for benchmark tests online before u buy anything :)


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 19, 2004, 07:29:50 AM
try Toms Hardware www.tomshardware.com

Check out ther video card benchmarks there.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 19, 2004, 03:15:36 PM
guys im starting to think my problem may actually be a memory prob cause i just tried installing elite force 1 and before this installation it used to run great i could put the textures the highest they could go which i belive was very high and the game would run smooth but now its very sluggish and sloppy and then i tried a2 and its the same thing its very sluggish and i know that this isn't due to my graphics card


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: KL0K on July 19, 2004, 03:23:25 PM
well the amount of ram is enough for the most games available... ur main problem is ur graphic-card, i had the TNT2 Ultra in my old pc... the gpu and memory is too slow, beside the only 32mb on that card, which is the next problem... no matter what the driver says... the tnt2 got 32.. (maybe the card is too old that the newer drivers dont know the cards specs, same thing happened with my S3 card)...


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 19, 2004, 03:27:20 PM
ah i see damn graphics card lol


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 19, 2004, 09:51:39 PM
Blam the tnt2 cards! BLAM them all.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 20, 2004, 12:42:11 AM
thing that sucks about computers is you can buy a piece of new technology but the next day that tech is out dated and old news lol its a money trap to keep makin people get new tech then they produce these new programs where u have to get the tech or u can't use them without problems lol


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: cts006 on July 20, 2004, 01:21:34 AM
Or you just curl up into a ball and wait until computers have reaxhed their peak without storing data on a sub atomic level.


Title: B2: Upgrading Windows Me To Xp
Post by: SSJDon on July 20, 2004, 09:52:34 PM
Yea could do that too by the way Doca Cola asked me to attach my dxdiag info but i forgot to i think we already found the problem but im gonna attach it to my post anyway